The Electric Vehicle Scam

[Toby]

I would say give it a few more years, and get a 3-4 million more EV cars and trucks on the road, along with a hot summer, and see if the electric grid will withstand the draw of electricity.

Just look at California and the electric shortages they endure

 

[Toby]

https://imgur.com/a/bZFnMAf

Still miss my 57 F I Chevy

That is one of my most favorite cars, I love seeing them at the shows restored to original.

Breeze you remember when they used to put the battery under the seat in cars?

 

[Crumudgeon]

That is one of my most favorite cars, I love seeing them at the shows restored to original.

Breeze you remember when they used to put the battery under the seat in cars?

My 2001 Pontiac Bonneville has it under the rear seat.
This car is as big as they get, supercharged V6, comfortable as can be, and still gets hi 20-low 30 mpg in the city. When you mash the gas, it gets out of its own way..

 

[seabreeze]

That is one of my most favorite cars, I love seeing them at the shows restored to original.

Breeze you remember when they used to put the battery under the seat in cars?

Yep, sure do.

 

[seabreeze]

That is one of my most favorite cars, I love seeing them at the shows restored to original.

Breeze you remember when they used to put the battery under the seat in cars?

I also recall our trucks carried 4 -6 volt batteries along with series-parallel switches under the driver's step that gave a lot of problems.

 

[Michigan Bill]

I also recall our trucks carried 4 -6 volt batteries along with series-parallel switches under the driver's step that gave a lot of problems.

Didn't they do that for additional cranking power in cold weather? I remember reading about that somewhere....

 

[seabreeze]

That is because that is how old turbos were.....you had to wind it up to get any power.....Ford tried it in the 80s and those engines didn't last and they scrapped turbo charging (at least in production vehicles) until recently... they have come a long way...power is smooth now and throughout the RPM range....

Ford had a turbo in 1957 that ran like a scalded dog, NASCAR banned it along with the GM fuel Injection, I think that stopped production.
In those days, racing sold cars.

 

[seabreeze]

Didn't they do that for additional cranking power in cold weather? I remember reading about that somewhere....

Yep, started on 24v at all times and switched to 12v for the system.

 

[Michigan Bill]

Ford had a turbo in 1957 that ran like a scalded dog, NASCAR banned it along with the GM fuel Injection, I think that stopped production.
In those days, racing sold cars.

Nascar banned a bunch of neat things, I have smokey yunicks autobiography, he goes into great detail about how much he disliked the heads of Nascar...

 

[seabreeze]

Nascar banned a bunch of neat things, I have smokey yunicks autobiography, he goes into great detail about how much he disliked the heads of Nascar...

Ole Smokey, Paul McDuffie, Ray Fox, and that bunch made racing.

 

[Michigan Bill]

Ole Smokey, Paul McDuffie, Ray Fox, and that bunch made racing.

His book gets into a lot of the dirty cheating he did, going all the way back to his Hudson hornet days. Very interesting read.

 

[seabreeze]

His book gets into a lot of the dirty cheating he did, going all the way back to his Hudson hornet days. Very interesting read.

He had a lot of company when it came to cheating, that was just racing.
Herb Thomas won the championship in a Hudson.
I think it was in 50.

 

[Michigan Bill]

He had a lot of company when it came to cheating, that was just racing.
Herb Thomas won the championship in a Hudson.
I think it was in 50.

Those cars are cool! Rather have a Hudson with the 308 and two carbs over most of the overpriced crap on the lot's today.

 

[Crumudgeon]

I also recall our trucks carried 4 -6 volt batteries along with series-parallel switches under the driver's step that gave a lot of problems.

We had an old White 5000 on the farm, 220 Cummins, 6-12 electric system, solenoids under the drivers seat, lever for compression release on the dash. Pull the lever, hear the click, spin like heck, shove the lever in, giant cloud of smoke. It's alive!!!!!
Early 60's technology at its best..

 

[seabreeze]

We had an old White 5000 on the farm, 220 Cummins, 6-12 electric system, solenoids under the drivers seat, lever for compression release on the dash. Pull the lever, hear the click, spin like heck, shove the lever in, giant cloud of smoke. It's alive!!!!!
Early 60's technology at its best..

Ryder disconnected our compression releases.
We would go down the road, lift the valves and no one could see behind us for a mile.

 

[Toby]

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@BjornLomborg: We're told solar and wind future But when wind is not blowing and sun not shining? Batteries! Yet The world uses 51GWh/minute and has 64GWh of battery storage: enough for 1m:15s 2030: 10m:24s After th...…

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[LS2Silver]

I can't imagine spending $130k on a Tesla Plaid just to get gapped by a turbo LS motor or nitrous LS for so much cheaper.

 

[highspeeds]

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@BjornLomborg: We're told solar and wind future But when wind is not blowing and sun not shining? Batteries! Yet The world uses 51GWh/minute and has 64GWh of battery storage: enough for 1m:15s 2030: 10m:24s After th...…

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This has been brought up a bunch. There is a massive gap in energy storage technology. They are trying to work out energy production. And worry about how to hold it later.

 

[Toby]

This has been brought up a bunch. There is a massive gap in energy storage technology. They are trying to work out energy production. And worry about how to hold it later.

Can’t have one without the other and have efficiencies

 

[AzPilot]

Toby, just admit you hate change and be done with it.