The Electric Vehicle Scam

Michigan Bill

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I can't imagine spending $130k on a Tesla Plaid just to get gapped by a turbo LS motor or nitrous LS for so much cheaper.
True, but in a decade, I doubt most gas engines will be competition for electric. The price comes down, the technology gets better.

Think about how many Ford flatheads probably got chucked in the scrap heap in the late 50s, early 60s, after overhead valve v8s became common.

Hell, look at the LS. No one builds a 350 small block anymore, you can get a junkyard 5.3 that's better than anything you can build for under 6k...

When electric motors start showing up in the junkyard, guys are going to notice. I really don't care how the driveshaft gets spun, armature or crankshaft...
 

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The way the communists push it, it's not change, it's coercion. It's supposed to be a free country, remember?
No one is forcing anyone to buy an electric car but eventually auto manufacturers will produce fewer internal combustion engines and most new cars will be electric. It will take a long time to phase out all the gas powered vehicles. I mean really if you don't want to send an Email you can dig your typewriter out of the attic.
 

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No one is forcing anyone to buy an electric car but eventually auto manufacturers will produce fewer internal combustion engines and most new cars will be electric. It will take a long time to phase out all the gas powered vehicles. I mean really if you don't want to send an Email you can dig your typewriter out of the attic.
Wrong. NY has made laws banning sales of any new internal combustion engine cars, ATVs, and boats by 2034, iirc. California has done similar.

Obviously technology marches on, but it's really none of their business what I want to buy and drive.

This will eventually get sorted out in the courts, I'd imagine.
 

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True, but in a decade, I doubt most gas engines will be competition for electric. The price comes down, the technology gets better.

Think about how many Ford flatheads probably got chucked in the scrap heap in the late 50s, early 60s, after overhead valve v8s became common.

Hell, look at the LS. No one builds a 350 small block anymore, you can get a junkyard 5.3 that's better than anything you can build for under 6k...

When electric motors start showing up in the junkyard, guys are going to notice. I really don't care how the driveshaft gets spun, armature or crankshaft...

I may consider an electric conversion if it's 1000 hp capable and cost effective. I have two LS motors that can do that now, and I love the sound of a high compression choppy idle.

I don't like it being forced on by a tree hugger agenda though and won't jump on the bandwagon anytime in the near future.
 

Michigan Bill

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I may consider an electric conversion if it's 1000 hp capable and cost effective. I have two LS motors that can do that now, and I love the sound of a high compression choppy idle.

I don't like it being forced on by a tree hugger agenda though and won't jump on the bandwagon anytime in the near future.
Internal combustion engines have been hobbled by the government for 52 years, who knows what they're capable of, really.
 
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Wrong. NY has made laws banning sales of any new internal combustion engine cars, ATVs, and boats by 2034, iirc. California has done similar.

Obviously technology marches on, but it's really none of their business what I want to buy and drive.

This will eventually get sorted out in the courts, I'd imagine.
Can you buy a handgun in NY ? I can buy one here in Az.
Don't you believe states Rights? look at Texas, woman can't get an abortion and have to go to another state Do you feel the same way about that law?
 

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Can you buy a handgun in NY ? I can buy one here in Az.
Don't you believe states Rights? look at Texas, woman can't get an abortion and have to go to another state Do you feel the same way about that law?
I don't support abortion.

You can buy a handgun in NY, although the supreme court is going over their unconstitutional process, and it will probably bring on lawsuits on assault weapons bans being unconstitutional as well.

You have all the msm liberal answers, I'm totally shocked. You sound desperate to justify your socialist leanings...
 

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I don't support abortion.

You can buy a handgun in NY, although the supreme court is going over their unconstitutional process, and it will probably bring on lawsuits on assault weapons bans being unconstitutional as well.

You have all the msm liberal answers, I'm totally shocked. You sound desperate to justify your socialist leanings...
You never answered if you believe in states rights, because if they don't then the Texas law is illegal. It doesn't matter whether you support abortion or not.
 

Michigan Bill

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You never answered if you believe in states rights, because if they don't then the Texas law is illegal. It doesn't matter whether you support abortion or not.
Stop trying to divert, I believe in America being a free country. Obviously you don't, as you justify government intrusion in everyone's lives.

You couldn't handle the argument that the government is putting their thumb on the scale, unconstitutionally, and you try and change the subject.
 

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Stop trying to divert, I believe in America being a free country. Obviously you don't, as you justify government intrusion in everyone's lives.

You couldn't handle the argument that the government is putting their thumb on the scale, unconstitutionally, and you try and change the subject.
Are you talking about the U S Government or the State of New York, if you don't like the states laws MOVE.
 

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Are you talking about the U S Government or the State of New York, if you don't like the states laws MOVE.
If the state laws are unconstitutional, i want them defeated. This big divide in the country is because of people like you.

Like usual, you don't get how dumb you look. I don't care what you have or don't have. It's supposed to be a free country. Want a Prius? I don't care, drive whatever you want.

Then you justify every overreach, while denying being a socialist. Haven't you ever been told to STFU and mind your own business?
 

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If the state laws are unconstitutional, i want them defeated. This big divide in the country is because of people like you.

Like usual, you don't get how dumb you look. I don't care what you have or don't have. It's supposed to be a free country. Want a Prius? I don't care, drive whatever you want.

Then you justify every overreach, while denying being a socialist. Haven't you ever been told to STFU and mind your own business?
I see it is what YOU want and what YOU think is unconstitutional well I think the Texas law is unconstitutional.
 

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I see it is what YOU want and what YOU think is unconstitutional well I think the Texas law is unconstitutional.
Show me where the constitution addresses abortion.

Yet again with a bad diversion. What I want is to be able to do as I wish, in a free country. I don't know who taught you to be so nosey. You think the government should worry about what kind of car I can buy? You're nuts!
 

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Show me where the constitution addresses abortion.

Yet again with a bad diversion. What I want is to be able to do as I wish, in a free country. I don't know who taught you to be so nosey. You think the government should worry about what kind of car I can buy? You're nuts!
There are lots of things here in Az that we can't do having to do with water ,types of trees you can't plant, no burn days , many things done for the environment, I think you are just a whiner.
 

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There are lots of things here in Az that we can't do having to do with water ,types of trees you can't plant, no burn days , many things done for the environment, I think you are just a whiner.
Not a whiner, just not some puzzy brainwashed communist like you! You will justify every overreach they make, and preach the gospel of Ralph Maddow and CNN.....
 

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Btw, if you want to justify a government SO big that they're on top of what trees you can plant, you're missing the point, and you never will understand.

Who wants to pay for a government so big that they're attempting to control that?
 

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Not a whiner, just not some puzzy brainwashed communist like you! You will justify every overreach they make, and preach the gospel of Ralph Maddow and CNN.....
You really need to come up with a better game you sound like NF . It's funny you go to the standard communist remark when your brain locks up.
 

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Btw, if you want to justify a government SO big that they're on top of what trees you can plant, you're missing the point, and you never will understand.

Who wants to pay for a government so big that they're attempting to control that?
Do you know the difference between federal government and state
 

Michigan Bill

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You really need to come up with a better game you sound like NF . It's funny you go to the standard communist remark when your brain locks up.
Cool, another diversion. You realize that justifying a bloated government so big that they're telling you what trees you can plant is idiotic, right?
 
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