Jeff, thanks for the post, I'am unable to read it with my antiquated system, but to speak on the statement by the finacel wizzards, I thought those days were over, for years after a company closed, it was always reported that because of the high cost of union labor they had to close the doors, and the general public reading this would accept it as law, not until recently have you heard of the unreal salaries and perks of the upper management, end result here, regardless of what happens, I hope the whole story is reported, again in my opinion, it was disigned this way, it didn't just happen, and the economy is just a small part of it.