The voting rights bill
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Because they jumped the shark last go around and got caught
Democrats ‘Thundering’ Against Filibuster They Used Just Last Week: McConnell
McConnell noted that despite their efforts to paint the filibuster as a “Jim Crow relic,” Democrats used the process as recently as last week, when they used it to stop a Republican bill that would put sanctions on Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which Republicans have argued would help stall or halt altogether Putin’s territorial ambitions in Eastern Europe.
Democrats 'Thundering' Against Filibuster They Used Just Last Week: McConnell
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) blasted Democrats for their inconsistent attitudes toward the filibuster during the opening ...
that is great and it works in Arizona
This bill would mail out a ballot to every register voter, with no verification and no signiture requirement
the truth is no one is being disenfranchised
The Dems were able to use the pandemic in certain key states with favorable judges to illegally change voting laws to give them an advantage
now they want to make those laws permanent
They are doing this under the guise that people are not able to vote under the old restrictive laws that had been in place for the last 100 years
Following the 2020 election several states took a look at what happened and passed new laws which made it more difficult for some of the things that really didnt look above board, to not happen again
and the Dems pounced
The Dems were able to use the pandemic in certain key states with favorable judges to illegally change voting laws to give them an advantage
now they want to make those laws permanent
They are doing this under the guise that people are not able to vote under the old restrictive laws that had been in place for the last 100 years
Following the 2020 election several states took a look at what happened and passed new laws which made it more difficult for some of the things that really didnt look above board, to not happen again
and the Dems pounced
What is supposed to be tho, per the Constitution, was that Senators are supposed to vote as their State Legislatures instruct them how to vote. The 17th Amendment changed how Senators are elected (and I wish it was repealed)- but it has no bearing on how Senators are supposed to vote.
The US Representatives are elected every two years because their votes are supposed to represent how their constituents (their voters at home) want them to vote.
The US Senators are elected to six year terms because they are supposed to represent their State Legislature’s votes, and not those of their voters. 1/3 of the Senate comes up for vote every 2 years. The Senate is not supposed to be a popularity contest, like the House is. They were originally expected (per Thomas Jefferson) to only pass a couple of Bills into law each year. Jefferson wanted each Bill to be debated for over a year before it ever came to a vote.
The Constitution’s Article One puts Individual State Legislatures in charge of that State’s voting procedures. It does Not permit State AGs, or State lawyers, judges, or state Administrators to change that. Yet all of that was done in 2020, to steal the Elections. The ‘20 states’ you guys post about, merely put their original laws back into effect, to some degree. In most of those cases, they actually expand voting procedures. Basically- you Democrats won the argument, and you aren’t accepting Yes for an answer…..
And the best part is in the new bill the DOJ has to approve any law changes states want to make.
If you can ignore the fact that we have the worst, most incompetent, least trusted and most corrupt DOJ we have ever had it’s still not their job or within their powers to approve state legislature. We elect state Senators to do that.
Yeah that’s the point of the bill.
Like what could go wrong huh?
Fly-by-night
Only when you care to send the very best
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*Besides the United States, there are 36 member states in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). Forty-seven percent ban mail-in voting unless the citizen is living abroad, and 30 percent require a photo ID to obtain a mail-in ballot. Fourteen percent of the countries ban mail-in voting even for those living abroad.
*Brazil and Russia satisfy the economic standards of the OECD, but are excluded for various political reasons. Both countries completely ban mail-in voting and require photo IDs for in-person voting.
*Among the 27 countries in the European Union, 63 percent ban mail-in voting unless living abroad and another 22 percent require a photo ID to obtain a mail-in ballot. Twenty-two percent ban the practice even for those who live abroad.
*There are 16 countries in the rest of Europe, and they are even more restrictive. Every single one bans mail-in voting for those living in the country or require a photo ID to obtain a mail-in ballot. Sixty-three percent don't allow mail-in ballots even for citizens living outside of the country.
*France banned mail-in voting in 1975 because of massive fraud in Corsica
*In 1991, Mexico's election mandated voter photo IDs and banned absentee ballots. Only in 2006 were absentee ballots again allowed, and then only for those living abroad who requested them at least six months in advance.
Voting fraud is a real concern. Just look around the world | Opinion
If concern about voter fraud with mail-in ballots is delusional, it is a delusion that is shared by most of the world.
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There is an edge within this particular forum. It’s an unusual situation but not. One side is so outspoken I really don’t want to resort to that level. It’s here. It’s real. Just something to be aware of. Some battles you win but at what cost. Isn’t it called a Pyrrhic victory? I’m not willing to go to the mat to prove a point that even in winning you won’t have anyone on the other side accepting defeat. That’s just not real. Again as I said…. It’s here and it is real.
How would you know, since you have everyone on here on ignore?????
It’s really simple. This is a distraction!
The real issue actually is in New York where they are setting the template by allowing Illegals to vote. The very fact that they want to pass this so called voting rights act is to facilitate that on the Federal Level.
When you look at same day registration with no ID required its a cauldron of fraud brewing. In deep heavy blue metros this tips the scales. You can say well they are only local, but again we can not even clean up the voting rolls so there would be no checks and balances.
Let’s be entirely honest, it’s not about a procedure that both parties have used timelessly in the Filibuster. It’s not about ensuring any “equity” whatever the heck the definition is today.
It’s about rigging it so that the Democrats can attain super majority by fraud and handicap this nation under one party rule.
The real issue actually is in New York where they are setting the template by allowing Illegals to vote. The very fact that they want to pass this so called voting rights act is to facilitate that on the Federal Level.
When you look at same day registration with no ID required its a cauldron of fraud brewing. In deep heavy blue metros this tips the scales. You can say well they are only local, but again we can not even clean up the voting rolls so there would be no checks and balances.
Let’s be entirely honest, it’s not about a procedure that both parties have used timelessly in the Filibuster. It’s not about ensuring any “equity” whatever the heck the definition is today.
It’s about rigging it so that the Democrats can attain super majority by fraud and handicap this nation under one party rule.
Preach it, brother. Hit the nail on the head. In Indiana, we have early voting. If you are going to be out of town you can get an absentee ballot. Indiana will give you an ID free to vote.
I think the votes should be counted the night of the election. Found votes should not be allowed. Guess what party gains votes when there found? Coincidence?
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I like how an old haggard 67 year old guy can figure that out, but yet a young 65 year old buckaroo is in the weeds on it....good one Jimmy!
I agree,it's a distraction.However,I think it's a distraction from all the other crap the Dimms have created.I can't think of a single positive thing they have done,since they stole power.
when the left loses they challenge the results
you have two congressional seats that the Dems fought tooth and nail for
Dems challenged Trumps election (remember that was stolen, Russian collusion)
The Dems challenged G. Bush election
pretty much every time the Dems lose they cry about it and then want to eliminate the Electoral College and change voting laws
If Brandon won, with more votes ever in the history of USA presidential elections
the Dems won the House, the Senate
seems a little strange to me that a party that won it all, would want to change things
See. This is not a logical response. Stolen election. Voter fraud. You’re exacting revenge on our democratic process because your guy lost. I’m noticing you are responding to an obvious like minded person such as yourself. You use this buy line of stolen election as your serviceable option because it’s easy. No matter how many times it’s explained you and the other like minded members will continue this assault on democracy and our democratic process UNLESS your guy wins. That’s not realistic. That’s just a party line response because it makes you feel better to say that. So in essence every election that your guy’s lose will be stolen. I responded respectfully. Don’t attack me with similar unfounded unproven responses. That would be silly and just intensify what seems to be an illogical reply. It seems like “icuicp’s” analogy of massing the troops has a lot of foundation. I’m not going to fight fire with fire. Just stating the facts is good enough for me and the people I ride with. Keep it friendly and I will give you an educated response. Keep the hate on your side of the keyboard. Hiding behind it just isn’t right.
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You're not stating facts, you're lying. We aren't a democracy...
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