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The vaccine exists. No quotations necessary.
ABF | Time to pull out
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vongrimmenstein
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You think? von.
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Nobody can be this DUMB ???
Things must be slow in Fort Smith ??? .lol
1984Sideways
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Ah Ft Smith.
Just a short drop....
Just a short drop....
vongrimmenstein
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Oh yes they can. von
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28 states, more than half, have RTW laws. I had no idea that states like Michigan and Wisconsin were trying to "kill unions".
RTW laws do nothing to prevent organizing or collective bargaining. The Federal Labor Relations Act of 1935 guarantees those rights. No state can take those rights away and none has. RTW simply allows workers to withhold dues payments if they feel the service they receive is overpriced or the union fails to represent their values and beliefs.
Did you know that no worker anywhere in the United States is required to join a union? Closed shop laws only require payment of monthly fees. They do not require anyone to become a member.
Should every retiree be required by law to pay dues to AARP?
As a concealed carrier, should I be forced to give money to the NRA?
No organization should be allowed to confiscate money from anyone.
If all that was this simple then the union shouldn't be made by law to represent non paying people....I saw in another post on a different thread you saying something to the effect that if the union doesn't listen to the members then you should withhold dues, this coming from the " union man" who stated that in his time as a union representative holding all sorts of jobs in the union, that he favored the company over the members....the same guy who would hide his head in safety meetings and not speak up until he "put in his retirement papers"....you disgust me with your anti union rhetoric....and no one is confiscating money...you agree to pay dues when you are hired....no one makes you join the NRA but you do give money for your permit, and if you want AARP benefits you pay to be a member....
LTLAnonymous
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So this is just the new Bubba Gump?
As boring this time as it was last time.
As boring this time as it was last time.
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I'm not anti anything. I also don't blindly defend and support anything. Unions are the balance between all out capitalism that exploits labor and socialism that believes the only reason corporations exist is to provide jobs. The key word is balance. Investors are entitled to a return on their capital investment. Labor is entitled to a return on the investment of time and talent. The out of balance comes from unions that proclaim all labor is of equal value. Profits are necessary to continue to survive and thrive. Unions, whose work rules prevent the right people being put in the right jobs and refuse to reward the productive encourage mediocrity. That was fine in the regulated industry but does not work in the America free market economy. Competition is always best for a working economy. Competition creates better service, higher quality and lower prices. That is American capitalism which has created the greatest economy the world has ever known. The regulated, government price controlled trucking industry that limits entry into the market place is textbook socialism.
I will bet he does in fact get invited...but he doesn't spout such nonsense as he likely wants to go home in one piece....after all this is the "union leader" who was too big of a wuss to speak up in safety meetings until he "put in his retirement papers"....Blade I bet you don't get invited to the Preston/Teamsters picnics do you?
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And every word of this post is true and undeniable.
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I did 5 years at Yellow for one reason only, to get to 30 and out. With 500 drivers at Cleveland, I could keep my head down, do my job and quietly leave. That is exactly what I did. No apologies for that.
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I am reminded of one in Memphis.
Now in driving school aka Daddy, he said always anticipate. So... worse case scenarios flow through my mind all the time. And one wonders wtf is wrong with me. HA.
Anyway. Here I am tooling along in the left lane on 40 getting out of and away from gridlock Memphis rush hour. All lanes CHOKED with traffic except mine.
So 40 tons, loaded. Rolling, Fat. Dumb and happy i was. Planning the 76 Dinner Menu coming up in a hundred miles or so.
Heres a red buick stop stone dead screech right there in my hood. I had no place to go. Safety would refuse that excuse and say driver there is always places to put a semi. Failure to do so is no excuse and is grounds for punishment.
I essentially dumped my air. What that buick wanted was to use a median sneak around that the Law likes to use now and then so it does not have to do this traffic thing on my side of the road. 6 damn blacks in the car. Normally race is not a issue. But that many with such a dumb situation that almost got them all punched to St Peters Gates in a hurry at 40 mph by yours truly.
While dumping air and facing the prospect of prison terms times 6 lifes... I was hysterically laughing because the ******* tractor is already alerting the shop manager back at the yard 1000 miles away on the emergency stop situation. HE will complain to safety who will counsel me on not using such hard braking. Thats abusive to the equiptment Mr Driver, we do not support such actions in this company.
Sure, if your company has enough assets to pay the families of 6 mashed people....
To this day I made sure I dont see Memphis. I am, afraid the next really stupid something that happens in my world there in that city is going to be a whole lot of trouble.
If that's what you say....my opinion is that you told us about all these union jobs, including road steward in Cleveland.....so it makes me think that if a member came to you with something controversial that you would tell him he had no case, so you could go on "keep your head down (I wonder how far down), do you job and leave." I got a feeling you do owe the members you (mis)represented an apology.....
And you forgot that it was just you standing on your soap box who didn't rebut anything I said except for you stating that you are not anti union...but there is no one on these boards that agrees with you....
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Now that is hilarious. Sad thing is, you probably believe that statement you made.
Lets start with the Union thing. You bragged about all the official Union titles you once held. Then you bragged about getting hired at Yellow ahead of several others when Preston shut their doors. You don’t really think they hired you first because of your “strong” Union background do you? They hired you first because they knew you would be a “good boy” and not get involved with Union issues. How many good Union people did you turn your back on during your 5 years at Yellow that you could have helped when it came to Union issues. You were a Union Official. It was your job to help out your Union brothers that might have needed your knowledge and experience when it came to Union issues. But instead, you kissed the bosses azzes at Yellow to get a job and turned your back on your brothers just so you could draw a full, 30 year pension from the very organization that provided you a contractual agreement so that you could get that 30 year and out pension. And now you preach that Unions are out-dated and need to change to suit the employers wishes all the while drawing a 30 year pension provided you by the contracts negotiated by the Teamsters. I would say that pretty much labels you “anti-union”. It also labels you a hypocrite as you are drawing a pension from the negotiating efforts of the very organization that you say needs to change to suit the employers needs.
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Years ago I ran into a Union Driver with a flatbed and over dinner we had a conversation. He was essentially empty for a while and not loaded in a time frame I would consider a losing proposition.
He was on the clock sitting there. Be in 2 hours, 2 days or 3 weeks or a month? As long his company was lawfully in operation he got paid.
I get paid nothing when waiting on a load. Because no one gets paid on my outfit. So why does or better yet WHAT money is paying HIM?
We parted friends, but not necessarily ones who agree on some things. Both of us were doing trucking and very similar work but the money flowed differently or not at all. And there I think lies the difference.
I am not anti union. But I would not go running after a Union either. I love my freedom to tell a suit to shove it when its necessary to do so.
He was on the clock sitting there. Be in 2 hours, 2 days or 3 weeks or a month? As long his company was lawfully in operation he got paid.
I get paid nothing when waiting on a load. Because no one gets paid on my outfit. So why does or better yet WHAT money is paying HIM?
We parted friends, but not necessarily ones who agree on some things. Both of us were doing trucking and very similar work but the money flowed differently or not at all. And there I think lies the difference.
I am not anti union. But I would not go running after a Union either. I love my freedom to tell a suit to shove it when its necessary to do so.
The difference is when you "tell a suit to shove it" you probably no longer have a job there. When we in the Union "tell a suit to shove it" we probably go on about our business as if nothing happened.
