Not trying to get into a pissing contest or give you agida bud. Simple fact, Dayton paying .74, OD at .73. You and I both know the insurance is horrible. Been killing myself doing 600 miles a day for more than 3 years. Breakdown pay, via etc. Best I could do was 126 a year. And I was very happy with that. Several friends at OD doing 500 and change a day make a little more than that. It's not going to get any better. Good luck.About a month or so ago for us.
Who pays 5 CPM more? Most I've seen is 2-3 CPM. Those same carriers pay a lot less for task pay and won't pay for delay because your load isn't ready. OD pays 8 dollars for drops and hooks. Saia pays 15 minutes of your hourly rate.
I've spoken to a lot of companies because I'm curious to see what they offer. I've been underwhelmed.
If they got the insurances under control, they'd be ahead of the game, but from info I've received from other companies it's all the same and in some companies it's worse/more expensive. The only company I spoke to that offered better/cheaper insurance is PepsiCo, but the pay was a lot lower than FedEx. I was making more on year 1 as a CDSA.
Not trying to get into a pissing contest or give you agida bud. Simple fact, Dayton paying .74, OD at .73. You and I both know the insurance is horrible. Been killing myself doing 600 miles a day for more than 3 years. Breakdown pay, via etc. Best I could do was 126 a year. And I was very happy with that. Several friends at OD doing 500 and change a day make a little more than that. It's not going to get any better. Good luck.
Don't know where you live but Pitt Ohio has way better insurance.About a month or so ago for us.
Who pays 5 CPM more? Most I've seen is 2-3 CPM. Those same carriers pay a lot less for task pay and won't pay for delay because your load isn't ready. OD pays 8 dollars for drops and hooks. Saia pays 15 minutes of your hourly rate.
I've spoken to a lot of companies because I'm curious to see what they offer. I've been underwhelmed.
If they got the insurances under control, they'd be ahead of the game, but from info I've received from other companies it's all the same and in some companies it's worse/more expensive. The only company I spoke to that offered better/cheaper insurance is PepsiCo, but the pay was a lot lower than FedEx. I was making more on year 1 as a CDSA.
Estes is .74 sefl near us is .72... we are at .66I believe estes is also over 70 and possibly sefl
Ya'll should hear what the raise will be by the end of August, I'd expect.The chirping says wait until October. We'll see what happens.
At bare minimum, it shows that FedEx is realizing they're having a problem with driver retention.
Here's hoping to beneficial changes.
My original reply was to PS and how I got how he felt about what about us guys. You know the poor bastards who survived AF to FX to FXF West or God forbid Watkins to FXF. We survived all our fearless leaders Nonsense and hare brained schemes. Did our job day in and day out. Now when they make more money than they have ever before, on your back and mine by the way, they are no longer concerned with paying commensurate with your skills. If you can find Steven Newhouse's book on the Watkins deal, you will understand why FXF won't pay anymore. Someone on these boards posted not too long ago that the CPM raise coming up would be half a penny. That should tell you all you need to know. We are just a number and our value is going down, once a year.It's not a pissing contest, it's comparing who offers what. No Dayton buildings around me so I've never spoken to them.
Go over to the OD thread. It sounds just like this one. Underpaid and bad benefits.
The math I'm seeing in this post doesn't make sense. A 500 mile run with drops and hooks at OD comes out to about400/day. Considerably less than a 600 mile run at FedEx (depending on the GPD).
My original reply was to PS and how I got how he felt about what about us guys. You know the poor bastards who survived AF to FX to FXF West or God forbid Watkins to FXF. We survived all our fearless leaders Nonsense and hare brained schemes. Did our job day in and day out. Now when they make more money than they have ever before, on your back and mine by the way, they are no longer concerned with paying commensurate with your skills. If you can find Steven Newhouse's book on the Watkins deal, you will understand why FXF won't pay anymore. Someone on these boards posted not too long ago that the CPM raise coming up would be half a penny. That should tell you all you need to know. We are just a number and our value is going down, once a year.
Estes is .74 sefl near us is .72... we are at .66
We'll, in that case, let's all push for an additional week of vacation at 20 years. Those that want time will get it. Those that want cash can sell it.I would rather have a little more money.
i agreeWe'll, in that case, let's all push for an additional week of vacation at 20 years. Those that want time will get it. Those that want cash can sell it.
Win - Win!
Yep, the task pay at FedEx overcomes a few cents in mileage pay at ODIt's not a pissing contest, it's comparing who offers what. No Dayton buildings around me so I've never spoken to them.
Go over to the OD thread. It sounds just like this one. Underpaid and bad benefits.
The math I'm seeing in this post doesn't make sense. A 500 mile run with drops and hooks at OD comes out to about400/day. Considerably less than a 600 mile run at FedEx (depending on the GPD).
Yep, the task pay at FedEx overcomes a few cents in mileage pay at OD
If I’m not mistaken they pay about half of what we do for dropping and hooking, and I’m not sure if the pay the hourly rate for delays.Especially when you're familiar with the building you're going to and you can drop and hook in way less than an hour.
If I’m not mistaken they pay about half of what we do for dropping and hooking, and I’m not sure if the pay the hourly rate for delays.
AND it costs their employees ZERO a week for premiums. And 6 weeks vacation after 20 years. And they are making 30.17 an hour . And they made 826 million as a company….how does regional Pitt Ohio do so much more for drivers than worldwide conglomerate FedEx? FedEx needs to step up to the plate. Or sadly I may be on the other team soon..Don't know where you live but Pitt Ohio has way better insurance.
Newhouse was a good man. So was John WatkinsMy original reply was to PS and how I got how he felt about what about us guys. You know the poor bastards who survived AF to FX to FXF West or God forbid Watkins to FXF. We survived all our fearless leaders Nonsense and hare brained schemes. Did our job day in and day out. Now when they make more money than they have ever before, on your back and mine by the way, they are no longer concerned with paying commensurate with your skills. If you can find Steven Newhouse's book on the Watkins deal, you will understand why FXF won't pay anymore. Someone on these boards posted not too long ago that the CPM raise coming up would be half a penny. That should tell you all you need to know. We are just a number and our value is going down, once a year.
Here ya go. Great read, actually. Good insight into that time - the purchase - the mishandling, etc.If you can find Steven Newhouse's book on the Watkins deal, you will understand why...