POLITICS UAW vote at VW Tennessee plant turns into anti-union crusade

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  1. Magoo

    Magoo You don't have to be Einstein to figure it out

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    Nancy Pelosi just came out against FAST TRACK
    Thanks to you Magoo, fast track trade authority just hit a brick wall in the House of Representatives.

    After more than 180,000 DFA and CREDO members signed a petition to Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi -- and thousands more flooded her phone lines -- the former Speaker of the House told an assembly of union workers on Wednesday:

    "No on Fast Track... out of the question."
    This amazing news, first reported by the Washington Post's Greg Sargent, is a significant victory for the growing movement to kill the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Rep. Pelosi's words, like those of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid before her, will go a long way towards encouraging weak-kneed Democrats to stick with party leadership against Fast Track.

    However, Rep. Pelosi's bold statement will not change the fact that the forces behind "NAFTA on steroids" have nearly unlimited funds and a ton of influence in Washington. With the pro-corporate New Democrat Coalition of congressmembers whipping votes in the House, this battle is far from over.
     
  2. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    I guess I don't see your points? Especially ironic since RINO Progressive Corker is opposed to any Conservative votes and movements...
     
  3. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    Now that's the best joke you ever told....LMFAO
     
  4. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    "Liquid Cork" is a putz... No such promise can be given with a business of that size, unless it was in the making already.... So calm down Commandant Klink.... Schultz needs you in the bathroom..
     
  5. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    My rants on unions doesn't equate me with a socialist or dictator. It is the prevent or of that. My point goes over heads and into a canned answer from right saying I'm a lib. I'm not.
    The encyclical says that the laws began eroding which eventually got rid of unions which in turn brought the ugly ones you compare me to.
    And my whole life I've seen the feregulations the mobility of labor the antiunion legislations and economic beliefs which are most probabkky similar to what Leo said about his time.....capitalism works with unions. That was best here. And when unions are gone usury( fanny and Freddy and a whole society paying interest and living on credit instead of fair wage and benies) in favor of the rich and bankers result.

    My posts are to backtrack or move forward to a time where unions play a bigger role with more people. Its best for capitalism and freedom.
    Nothing good will come from lowering our numbers anymore...we are down to 6% now private sector. And the proof says that it has done nothing but make more socialism and our economy is crumbling......call me crazy but maybe truth is crazy.
    I didn't go into public and physically turn the moneychangers tables yet. Just typing.
     
  6. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

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    Slaveboy you're the only guy I know that pushes socialist/facist idea's to keep us from becoming a socialist/fascist county.
     
  7. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    I just typed history. How they influenced each other, and those in power to run the governing and the education. They call for control, as do you. The end result is communism.
     
  8. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    Ain't that the truth! And- oh yeah- Obama is a capitalist....
     
  9. jeepman

    jeepman Truckload Mercenary

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    BTW...The reason Volkswagen employees are having this vote, Is because of a NLRB ruling influenced by the UAW. The ruling also REQUIRED the Volkswagen to turn over the NAMES, ADDRESSES & E-MAIL ADDRESSES over to the UAW, as part of the fast tracking organizing attempt by the UAW. Since Tennessee is a "RIGHT TO WORK" state, the employee's are NOT required to join the UAW, and cannot be forced or cohered to do so even if there is a vote in favor of the UAW.
     
  10. Starkravinloon

    Starkravinloon Hero's Falling At Home

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    His bud from the Progressive Party has him confused.....
     
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  11. Stoney

    Stoney Well-Known Member

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    Slave, you're so against Free Trade. But if not for Free Trade, the UAW wouldn't have a chance to organize Volkswagen. So now am I to believe you're ok with Free Trade now?
     
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  12. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Not really. I prefer days when the companies were American owned. If any group of businessmen should have equal say with unions it should be american businessmen dedicated to their home communities, states, and country. That is a nation more unified.....but it wsdnt good enough for the business roundtable of the seventies....globalist interest won out over dedication to America and our own people.
     
  13. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    I believe this is done for safeties sake. I'd hope that Obama won't use one of his executive orders on this. But it is safe for all to come out against this with alame duck president threatening use of executive orders. He can do that pass fast track. And they can all get reelected.. I hope the majority of both parties actually follow thru with their public statements against fssttrack.
    I emailed my reps to oppose it and told them I hold them personally responsible for shirking their representative responsibilities and allowing him to pass TPP without representation from our reps. And let them know that they won't be getting my vote if they pass fast track or the TPP.
    Dent, Casey, and Toomey are my reps.
     
  14. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    My answer to govt tax funded programs is unions. That is taken care of in the market. The only govt involved in that is regs not govt paying as is socialism.
    You guys are off.
    Dog eat dog capitalism never ends well for the majority. And we are close to that
    Typical Marxist socialist commie accusations but what socialism or communism do I really support?
    Buchanan isn't communist and he's one of the few who actually admits he favored FreeTrader but had turned back to true GOP principles which NEVER agreed with free trade. Free trade is a progressive ideal. Not conservative.
     
  15. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Leo XIII - Rerum Novarum

    "stir up the people to revolt.

    3. In any case we clearly see, and on this there is general agreement, that some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class: for the ancient workingmen's guilds were abolished in the last century, and no other protective organization took their place. Public institutions and the laws set aside the ancient religion. Hence, by degrees it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition. The mischief has been increased by rapacious usury, which, although more than once condemned by the Church, is nevertheless, under a different guise, but with like injustice, still practiced by covetous and grasping men. To this must be added that the hiring of labor and the conduct of trade are concentrated in the hands of comparatively few; so that a small number of very rich men have been able to lay upon the teeming masses of the laboring poor a yoke little better than that of slavery itself.*

    4. To remedy these wrongs the socialists, working on the poor man's envy of the rich, are striving to do away with private property, and contend that individual possessions should become the common property of all, to be administered by the State or by municipal bodies. They hold that by thus transferring property from private individuals to the community, the present mischievous state of things will be set to rights, inasmuch as each citizen will then get his fair share of whatever there is to enjoy. But their contentions are so clearly powerless to end the controversy that were they carried into effect the working man himself would be among the first to suffer. They are, moreover, emphatically unjust, for they would rob the lawful possessor, distort the functions of the State, and create utter confusion in the community.*"




    Public institutions and laws set aside the ancient religion. The guilds. The unions.
    Sounds close.
     
  16. deputyd

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    Do you ever get the feeling you're talking to yourself?
     
  17. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    You Have GOT To Be KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FREE Trade is total FREEDOM. NO Control. Progressivism (Slow Communiosm) is TOTAL CONTROL- no private ownership of property. How anyone can mix those up is beyond me.... :regretful:
     
  18. jimmy g

    jimmy g Kook

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    So-... tell me, how is that really different than this : (and it answers- Marx hated Free Trade, so it wasn't 'progressive' (slow communism)

    The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

    The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

    The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.


    https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm#007
     
  19. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    I got that from Buchanan jimmy. In The Great Betrayal. Cordell Hull was progressive and our history with freetrade has to do with him. Pat can go on and on about it. Looks like you been betrayed,..Tariffs and protectionism are GOP ideals....the left historically opposed that. Free trade is progressive and about world not country.
     
  20. slavenomore

    slavenomore US Gov Hears Foreign Corps More Than Nonunions

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    Cordell Hull - People - Department History - Office of the Historian
    Check out Cordell Hull free trader, progressive, Nobel Peace Prize for the UN. Secretary of State for FDR.


    progressive?
    Or conservative?




     

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