SEFL Union

Discussion in 'Southeastern Freight Lines' started by art1915, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. art1915

    art1915 Member

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    When will you wake up and realize it's time we had a union. The time is now and things are getting worse. Micromanage everything, open door policy pretty much gets people fired . Survey is just SEFL's Marketing Tool. They do what they want !
     
  2. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Did you see the SDI results? There is no support for a union. 80% are happy as they are. You want to stir up a union go to xpo. They actually need one. Here’s what I would want from a union:
    A retirable retirement; what we have now isn’t enough to retire on.
    Better wages and benefits; how much of the tax savings went to drivers?
    Work rules limiting bad managers ability to harm you.
    Protection from termination if you get injured for more than 6 mos
     
  3. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Furthermore, I wouldn’t be opposed to working in a union, but ....
    Got to get IBT out of politics (my politics and religious beliefs clash with dems)
    Got to limit the damage Corps can do by buying off IBT leaders.
    Must have term limits of some sort on all upper level union leadership
     
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  4. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    And no, IBT doesn’t have term limits now (called elections). They don’t work. Too many don’t care or can be bought because of dim witted ness. Plus I don’t trust those elections. I think the ballots are stuffed by Hoffa and company
     
  5. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Feds run our elections local and international.
    your political beliefs agree with what SEFL is currently doing.
     
  6. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    How do you know what my politics are? Freedom is my politics. Workers should be free to unionize. Corps should be free to fire lazy troublemakers.
    Thanks for making me think this through. I realize an earlier statement is inconsistent with my ideals and so must withdraw it. Having a union force a company to keep unproductive workers runs against my freedom ideal; however, allowing any corporate entity unchecked power to fire and hire at will results in abuse eventually. Can’t there be a happy medium?
     
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    I would also add that I suspect my company along with others seek political influence to keep overtime laws as they are. So really IBT and corporations aren’t so different are they? Both try to buy political influence to help their agendas.
     
  8. no1uno

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    NO! vote for me on a union!
     
  9. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Passion duly noted. Now do tell Why you want one. To punish the evil doers? To put more money in your pocket?
     
  10. troubleman84

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    Wrong just all contracts in the IBT has fair days work for fair days pay. If the company doesn’t use it to weed OT the lazy it’s their own fault.
     
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    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Difference is IBT influence helps the working men and women.
     
  12. no1uno

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    NO means I DO NOT want a union!
     
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    SEFL punishes hard workers in p&d and rewards those that just do enough to get by. My 9 years there showed me that time and again. Also seinority should mean something but doesn't there. Get injured and you have 6 months to get back or lose your job. They definitely need a union. Also have you ever received a company handbook? I already know the answer to that.
     
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  14. LTLIndentured

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    No such animal as a company handbook
     
  15. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    You refer to “get it all delivered today and tomorrow you get more” it’s true, supers load down the people who get freight off and reward the guys they know will bring some back if overloaded
     
  16. LTLIndentured

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    Many of the issues you bring up are not issues at some locations. I think it depends on the leader or king at each terminal as to whether seniority is honored. It takes too long to get a bad scm moved out. People quit bosses
     
  17. LTLIndentured

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    For every art, there are 8 of you, so you have no worries
     
  18. LTLIndentured

    LTLIndentured Well-Known Member

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    Curious though, why so adamantly opposed to a union?
     
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    I believe the SDI numbers are fabricated. I really lost faith in the results at our terminal. Record setting highs when most guys, at least said, they gave the SCM the worst rating since he had been at our terminal. SDI survey is a complete waste of my time and the companies time.
     
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    If they had a company handbook" then they would have to treat everybody the same. That's how they get by with treating some city drivers like slaves and others are given a pass.
     
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