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Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
 
Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
Yes voters planning to leave, just need a couple weeks/months to get employed elsewhere so they vote yes.
 
Yes voters planning to leave, just need a couple weeks/months to get employed elsewhere so they vote yes.
Good point. A lot of these Yes voters are people getting ready to retire. They care nothing about the people that will be left to deal with the fallout of a substandard contract.
 
As bad as we perceive this contract at least it is not concessionary, as has been the last 20 or so years of the Master Freight agreements. The Company smells blood in the water and they circled and faced off with a weak Union that lost all it's clout. it was obvious to me at our vote with the brothers coming in in their street clothes the master plan of UPS succeeded in turning the vote around. Now we can focus on our Union leadership, they failed us, we can change that. Show up at meetings, gather a slate and challenge them. Whining, name calling, and the like won't change anything...
 
Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
Regardless of what anyone voted, Ups will do what they always do at contract time and that's just a fact. Ups has over 100 years of sticking it to the employee and making Billions. Its just the way it is.
 
As bad as we perceive this contract at least it is not concessionary, as has been the last 20 or so years of the Master Freight agreements. The Company smells blood in the water and they circled and faced off with a weak Union that lost all it's clout. it was obvious to me at our vote with the brothers coming in in their street clothes the master plan of UPS succeeded in turning the vote around. Now we can focus on our Union leadership, they failed us, we can change that. Show up at meetings, gather a slate and challenge them. Whining, name calling, and the like won't change anything...

This is what it's all about. The leadership f***** us!
all this stupid talk about balls and courage and integrity and all this other nonsense doesn't mean squat when you're up against a billion-dollar Juggernaut like UPS. And the union leadership is in their back pocket.
There's a time to fight and there's a time to retreat. And this unfortunately is one of those times.
Hoffa won the general election for the IBT by less than 6000 votes. If every member of UPS Freight voted against him he would not be the union president right now.
 
As bad as we perceive this contract at least it is not concessionary, as has been the last 20 or so years of the Master Freight agreements. The Company smells blood in the water and they circled and faced off with a weak Union that lost all it's clout. it was obvious to me at our vote with the brothers coming in in their street clothes the master plan of UPS succeeded in turning the vote around. Now we can focus on our Union leadership, they failed us, we can change that. Show up at meetings, gather a slate and challenge them. Whining, name calling, and the like won't change anything...
Well said!
 
Nobody understands it doesn't matter who the union leadership is, UPS will ALWAYS do what UPS does. This move they pulled worked for them. It scared most into a yes vote. It will work again every 5 years. And even IF there's better leadership and stronger fights, UPS will do the same thing, but not open back up. You people are really naive.
 
Nobody understands it doesn't matter who the union leadership is, UPS will ALWAYS do what UPS does. This move they pulled worked for them. It scared most into a yes vote. It will work again every 5 years. And even IF there's better leadership and stronger fights, UPS will do the same thing, but not open back up. You people are really naive.
Well said. And very truthful. See you all in five years.
 
This is what it's all about. The leadership f***** us!
all this stupid talk about balls and courage and integrity and all this other nonsense doesn't mean squat when you're up against a billion-dollar Juggernaut like UPS. And the union leadership is in their back pocket.
There's a time to fight and there's a time to retreat. And this unfortunately is one of those times.
Hoffa won the general election for the IBT by less than 6000 votes. If every member of UPS Freight voted against him he would not be the union president right now.
Why do sound like a diffraction person from the person using this account this morning? Someone posted that several people were using this account and I agree with them. Not so much fear, fear, fear from this person.
 
The main reason nobody or many will vote no is because not many people can afford to strike cause they live waaaay above there means and will not sacrifice with what they have. There material things they have is not worth the sacrifice, ::shit:: most families dont even have %k in savings but bitch and complain about Pay,healthcare, etc while there driving 40-75k vehicles, motorcycles, RV trailers,jet ski's, boats while bragging what they have but in reality there just one step away from an economic downturn,strike or major health issue from being broke instead of saving for times like this where u can vote NO and sustain a strike.
 
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