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Fly-by-night said:
So why is a teamster driver paid less per hour then we are????? From what you are saying the teamster driver should be making what $45+ per hour??
Then please explain how the union let this happen?
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The pay has essentially equaled out, but overtime and benefits are still intact on the union side. At a non-union shop, you can work 45 to 50 hours per week before you start making that really good money that will help pay for your expensive medication. And do we even have to bother talking about the lack of a pension? I know the pension system is not perfect with the teamsters, and far from it. But at least they're doing something, rather than just telling you good luck.
 
LTLAnonymous said:
The pay has essentially equaled out, but overtime and benefits are still intact on the union side. At a non-union shop, you can work 45 to 50 hours per week before you start making that really good money that will help pay for your expensive medication. And do we even have to bother talking about the lack of a pension? I know the pension system is not perfect with the teamsters, and far from it. But at least they're doing something, rather than just telling you good luck.
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18 years vested ABF. 2040.00 monthly gross from Central States. I got lucky. And yes our pensions will take a hit. But I know of no non-union who could come close to what we have as a union / rank & file employee. von.
 
Fly-by-night said:
The last I read is that YRCW is not paying it fair share into the teamster pension. If billion are coming in then why are they behind on the pension should the teamster hold there feet to the fire if they are bring in billions?
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You must can comprehend what I said. They bring In Billions If Not For Merger And Recession Profits. Would Be Thru The Roof!!!!!! We agreed to terms of lower payments into pension fund. Read slowly again please.
 
toilet paper said:
I can't speak for all union LTL drivers but I generally put in around 55 hours a week in linehaul and I'll hit $100k this year. P&D driver's make about the same.
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You must be in top 20 on seniority in gaffney. Bottom guys are starving up there. Shiny wheels are moving majority of the freight. You guys gotta kill that overnite mentality.
 
Fly-by-night said:
So why is a teamster driver paid less per hour then we are????? From what you are saying the teamster driver should be making what $45+ per hour??
Then please explain how the union let this happen?
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We have a million miler XPO driver just started and admits he is making less per mile but is bringing more home now at Holland than XPO due to he is being paid for all time spent while in service of the employer. New OD driver as well says the same
 
Fly-by-night said:
I tired of hearing the union types bitch about deregulation. The teamster are big supporters of the democratic party give them million and million of dollars every year. They say the democratic party is for the working man, but are they really? The democratic party were in control of the House, Senate, and the White House when the MCA 1980 was passed and sign into law. The bill introduced on Feb 01 1980 by the Democratic sponsor Howard Cannon from Nevada pass through both the House and Senate were the Democratic party held a majority in both with 57 Senators and 277 in the House. The bill was then signed into law by a Democratic President. Yet they still support the party that sold them down the river years ago and want you to do the same. This is the same party that believes in more regulation more govt control and in the end has driven companies to produce there products overseas.
This shows the real bigotry of the Teamsters. They have no interest in the working man and just became the same type of corporation that they once stood against
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Actually at that time they supported the republicans due to Hoffa Sr being pardoned by Nixon and didn’t start back supporting the Democratic Party until Carey became president in the 90s.
 
ScotchNeat said:
This is not a helpful answer. I know there is more than one union guy in this group, someone please step forward and educate me. Let me rephrase the question. How do work rules benefit the hourly employees? How do work rules benefit the company?
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It allows the protection of work that day and in classification
Company has the right to work employees how they see fit in the same classification and helps on safety at terminals. Like we have yard who only hook and unhook fuel tractors only. Creates job for membership and eliminating chance of road drivers of accident/injuries on yard.
 
troubleman84 said:
We have a million miler XPO driver just started and admits he is making less per mile but is bringing more home now at Holland than XPO due to he is being paid for all time spent while in service of the employer. New OD driver as well says the same
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Naw, man! It's all about them MILES! lol
 
ScotchNeat said:
This is not a helpful answer. I know there is more than one union guy in this group, someone please step forward and educate me. Let me rephrase the question. How do work rules benefit the hourly employees? How do work rules benefit the company?
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It's already basically been stated, but work rules are essentially job classifications. Who handles what tasks. It benefits the company by cutting down on redundancies, and allowing workers to specialize in their particular tasks. Spotters get crazy good at backing into spots, line haul guys get crazy good at hooking and driving, Dock Workers get amazing with forklifts... And nobody tries to do anybody else's specialty, so it is all handled smoothly and efficiently.
 
troubleman84 said:
Run smart not hard when you are guaranteed.
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Believe me, I was being sarcastic. I am getting really disgusted by these guys complaining about the ELD law. They claim they will no longer get enough miles to pay their bills... Well how about you ask for a higher mileage pay rate? Which is what you should have been doing in the first place, rather than running 3500 miles per week.

The perfect job is the one where you can drive 2,000 miles and make your bills. That way, when you want to back up the Brinks truck, you can drive 3500 miles.
 
LTLAnonymous said:
The pay has essentially equaled out, but overtime and benefits are still intact on the union side. At a non-union shop, you can work 45 to 50 hours per week before you start making that really good money that will help pay for your expensive medication. And do we even have to bother talking about the lack of a pension? I know the pension system is not perfect with the teamsters, and far from it. But at least they're doing something, rather than just telling you good luck.
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In your post that I replied to you said nothing about benefits or pension. All you were talking about was the hourly rate and that what I replied to. So I will ask you again. Why are Teamster drivers paid less per hour than we are?? Just the hourly rate which I sure is a separate section in your contract.
 
ScotchNeat said:
This is not a helpful answer. I know there is more than one union guy in this group, someone please step forward and educate me. Let me rephrase the question. How do work rules benefit the hourly employees? How do work rules benefit the company?
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It also hurt a lot of companies back in the day when the industry was changing
 
Fly-by-night said:
In your post that I replied to you said nothing about benefits or pension. All you were talking about was the hourly rate and that what I replied to. So I will ask you again. Why are Teamster drivers paid less per hour than we are?? Just the hourly rate which I sure is a separate section in your contract.
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Benefits are always implied, no? I mean, why else do you not see ABF drivers jumping ship to OD or Dayton? On paper, those drivers could potentially make more than ABF drivers, but the overall package is better at ABF.
 
troubleman84 said:
It allows the protection of work that day and in classification
Company has the right to work employees how they see fit in the same classification and helps on safety at terminals. Like we have yard who only hook and unhook fuel tractors only. Creates job for membership and eliminating chance of road drivers of accident/injuries on yard.
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WOW if a road driver can't drive around the yard or fuel without have an accident/injuries then I guess he need to turn in his CDL. Make some wander how safe they are on the road?
 
LTLAnonymous said:
Benefits are always implied, no? I mean, why else do you not see ABF drivers jumping ship to OD or Dayton? On paper, those drivers could potentially make more than ABF drivers, but the overall package is better at ABF.
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But all you talked about was the hourly rate now you want to talk package. I was talking about hourly rate just like you posted back on post #3083. So why aren't you making $45 per hour like you said
 
troubleman84 said:
We have a million miler XPO driver just started and admits he is making less per mile but is bringing more home now at Holland than XPO due to he is being paid for all time spent while in service of the employer. New OD driver as well says the same
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Don't know about the OD driver but what was the XPO driver doing wrong because I get paid for all my time I work LH here unless I take a break or stop and go to the bathroom
 
LTLAnonymous said:
Naw, man! It's all about them MILES! lol
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Not everyone has dedicated runs .Senior guys get the gravy.I can say when I ran the road ,even with less miles I made more money on the clock than guys doing 500 mile runs ,waiting time fuel ,drop and hooks ect.You non union guys don't get most of these things,That's the difference.
 
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