no we are not talking about same thing. i am talking about master freight agreement 4 to 6 hour i know that is still in place. akita is talking about DOT regs that went into effect 2 plus years ago. that was supposed to cover all DOT regulated drivers. driver will take a 30 min break before 8hrs. my understanding is that at the last minute an exception was granted to the trucking companies that have so called city drivers. they are not required to have a 30 min break before 8th hour.