Your right Triplex. Those times were different and the men on the jobs were different. We for the most part stuck together. That meant a whole lot. We were a union back then. Men listen to their stewards and the stewards stuck up for their men. Teamster unity helped management see the buisness a little better. That's when driving was a great job. Damn, I'm showing my age.When I was P&D it was at smaller barns and for the most part we had a pretty good rapport with management and terrific stewards besides. Totally different atmosphere at larger locations for sure. I was lucky.