OK, so basically the hours of service only apply to an LTL city driver in regards to driving time, nobody cares or regulates hours of service beyond driving time, you can be "on duty" as many hours as your employer mandates as long as you have 10 hours off between starts??? Where are the FMCSA clowns on this one? Are we any less fatigued than the otr driver who burns 8 hrs sitting at a shipper or consignee and then has to go to bed 6 hours later? When I work 14, I work 14, minus the 30 minute lunch. The only day I get a "short" day is Thursday so I can have enough hours to cover my bid on Friday, then it's get me off the street before my 60 and work till close, sleep most of the day Saturday to try to recharge. It just blows my mind that we have to comply to hours of service rules in regards to driving yet as far as overall hours worked and getting the "proper" rest between work weeks is of no concern to management or FMCSA.