Info on linehaul at UPS

Discussion in 'UPS Freight' started by onelastthing, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    Thank you in advance to anyone that replies.

    I might be interested in a job with UPS, as a linehaul driver but first I'd like to know the difference between UPS Freight and UPS. I know they both pull sets but which pays more? What are the differences in job duties? I'm not interested in delivering freight or packages to anyone (respectfully to all p&d drivers). What I want in the future is top pay in the industry with no dock work, day time run and home everyday, I would be willing to work my way up and do whatever in the beginning. Are there more than 2 boards (road and city) ? Am I better off applying at a bigger terminal? I'm in my 20's running linehaul for another major LTL and love it but I am wondering if UPS is a better long term decision.

    Last but not least, how strict is the no facial hair policy?
     
  2. toilet paper

    toilet paper Well-Known Member

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    Small pack would probably be better. I've been in freight for 16 years still work the dock every night. We have very few day time runs.
     
  3. GaffneyRddriver

    GaffneyRddriver Member

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    The facial hair rule is zero tolerance at small pack. which ltl company are you currently employed with?
     
  4. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    Small pack is feeder, right? In other words, UPS is similar to fedex ground? And Freight similar to Estes, ABF, and ODFL.. What are the differences in operations? Laydowns, half way meets, run wild for weeks? Paid by mile or hourly? Which pays more and which one is harder to land a 500+ mile run?
     
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  5. toilet paper

    toilet paper Well-Known Member

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    Small pack is regular packages. Freight is like Old Dominion FedEx freight etc. Best of luck getting a 500 mile run it takes years upon years. Freight is mainly mileage pay small pack hourly.
     
  6. 5NC.Canes

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    What major LTL you drive for? I mean why leave a major LTL carrier that you already drive line for to come here and start at the bottom and take years to even get miles?
     
  7. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    ODFL. Reason I was inquiring was for the simple fact that if I can pull a set for a little over .60 a mile, why not do it for close to .70? Not just pay, but all the other extras
     
  8. 5NC.Canes

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    Ok I understand . I guess it all depends on your situation and location.
     
  9. maxicoze

    maxicoze Member

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    1) Was at the "big H" all last week. At least HALF the drivers from various terminals had beards. So no, i don't think the beard thing is strictly enforced.

    2) Now as far as the more important concern of landing a no dockwork, maximum mileage, maximum pay all daytime linehaul run, i am seeking that as well: Based on my limited knowledge of the game here at UPSF i think you may be able to achieve the first two rather quickly dependent upon which terminal you go to. i don't do dockwork. The max pay won't happen immediately because we are on a 4 year progressive contract-----starting .44, one year .47, second year .50, third year .60, and finally top pay which is i think .71. But max pay will happen.

    As far as the daytime thing, i have a hunch that it DOES exist but you may have to go to an obscure terminal to get it. (understand that not too many people are going to openly and enthusiastically volunteer the information...........:shrug:)

    For instance, the Casper WY terminal appears to be the most distant of all the UPS terminals in the system. That is, the furthest away from any other terminal compared to all the other terminals.

    i really don't know about daytime, but i have hunch that it does exist.
     
  10. sppollock

    sppollock Active Member

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    Almost all of what maxicoze says is true, except we arent trying to keep the daytime runs from him, apparently we don't know what terminal they exist at. In the PNW the closest I see is a 3 am start time with a 320 mile turn daily. I am a P & D driver that does extra work on weekends when available and then I will only do the runs during the day or they don't need to be done that badly. Pay is correct and if you are working regularly you might want to talk to the drivers running line in your area or the area you want to work, we have 3 line runs and only 2 run every night.
     
  11. 5NC.Canes

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    Yea and another thing don't be afraid to work the dock 27.5 to drive a forklift you have to lower your standards man.
     
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    At least until you get a run but still I'll still work the dock if they need me to.
     
  13. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    I'd be crazy to turn anything down in the beginning, like I said I'll work the dock to work my way up. I just don't want to be working the dock at 45+ years old in negative degree temp. Would they take someone with all endorsements and experience pulling doubles in all weather like me over a guy that, for example drove package car fresh out of school in line for feeders?
     
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  14. DeTrucker

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    To get on feeders you're gonna have to work seasonal, do a good job and hope one day they have more openings than they do people from the inside bidding on feeder jobs.
    They will Hire 1 seasonal/off the street driver for every 6 from the inside. It's in the contract. Then you have to hope to be chosen from the other seasonal drivers.
    Another shot you have is to get lucky and find a hub, usually a massive one in a hiring spree. BUt that is rare. A few years ago some of the massive hubs hired a lot of drivers off the street. Even drivers that never did seasonal work. But they hired tons of people. Enough that they won't be hiring again for a long time.

    It's a gamble. You can do seasonal for 10 years and never get a permanent feeder position at which you woulda wasted valuable time getting seniority somewhere else.
    Or you can get lucky and get a permanent position with the best pay and benefits in the industry. Well, that's after you go through the bottom of the seniority list which is another challenge.

    Good luck.
     
  15. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    I'll have to see what the local terminals have available I guess. Being on call seasonal for 10 years is not an option for me and for most people on here I'm sure.
     
  16. Dick Dastardly

    Dick Dastardly Drat, Double Drat, and Triple Drat!

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    I turned down a road job in Gaffney SC twice over the last two years. My understanding is too many outside carriers hauling the freight while drivers sit home starving. It didn't seem like a situation I wanted to deal with.
     
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  17. Frootloop

    Frootloop Well-Known Member

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    Is the potential future money really worth starting all over again? From my experience, I have gained nothing from switching from one LTL to another, but I don't work at UPS now either. After it all comes out of the wash I think most major LTL are just about equal, it's just a different color truck with a slightly different set of rules. Think about the tenure you will lose, the vacation you will lose, the stability of your rank on the board, the money you will lose the first couple of years. I'm just saying. I'm on my 3rd LTL job and nothing essentially has changed for the better, I'm just short a few weeks vacation of what I could be at if I had stayed where I was to begin with, short a few years seniority of where I could have been. I suppose it's all in your perception and what is important for you on a personal level though. For me personally now, my seniority on the board and tenure with the company are worth more than a potential few cents a mile raise that I may get by laying all my cards out on the table.
     
  18. onelastthing

    onelastthing New Member

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    That is definitely a valid argument, it's a gamble with high risk but high reward also. Based on a 500 mile run the difference at the end of the year is close to 10k. I could work less and make more at UPS at the end of the day. Definitely have to think hard on it. Thank all you for replies
     
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    Ltl companies are similar. Big difference is pay &'bennies. We're the top paying ltl out there. Bennies are good we have a defined company pension. That's a huge difference to the rest out there. I work in a hub & run daytime line haul. But you better have at least 15 yrs seniority before you even think of running daytime line haul. Best way to have a chance at some day running daytime line haul is to go to a large hub. EOL terminals usually run nights & work the patio but make excellent money. If you don't have much time vested at OD it might be worth the move. I run regular daytime hours make good money & have a great home life. Definitely worth running daytime line haul. It's the cream of the crop in this industry. Best of luck driver
     
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