Listen gang, I worked for holland for 10 years..The old TNT--- the USF takeover. I can tell you guys this, I know for a fact that the coopers don't have, nor could finance "Holland Motor Express", if they wanted. When Thomas( ie TNT) came into play in the mid 80s, the Coopers were nearly bankrupt then. Why do you think we took off like a B.O.H. after Thomas and cooper signed the papers? It certainly wasn't the cooper influence. It was the TNT, and Mike Gorno. so you guys can dream on, but it "aint" happening.