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Don't decisions like this need to be put before members?
Read your IBT Constitution....KK
Don't decisions like this need to be put before members?
Our BA was down here today to explain. Chicago area locals were put under nmfa so they(company/international )could legally take the 5% and pension from 710 and 705. Our white paper contracts are null and void and nmfa rules apply. I love it--- been a long time coming. I'm a city driver--can I now bid the road under nmfa rules???
Where does it say 710 dumped you?
The IBT GEB acted under provisions provided to them under the IBT Constitution....KK
Where does it say 710 dumped you?
The IBT GEB acted under provisions provided to them under the IBT Constitution....KK
where does it say 710 dumped you?
The ibt geb acted under provisions provided to them under the ibt constitution....kk
then maybe you can explane to me when pat f wanted to give up his white paper when the 10%was being talked about the international said that it could not be done because of legal issues now it can be done what changed.
Pat f is also on a video saying this if anyone still has the video think it was at a meeting in arizona before the vote for the 10%
The reasons why it happened are pretty obvious. Zollars already knew how and when this woukd be taken care of.(remember that conference call where he was asked about the no vote?) The reps obviously knew too that is why the rats waited until the day before a Holiday weekend to act upon it. Legal or not it was a WRONG decision. I now understand why people say your vote is predetermined. It may not be tampered with but they will just vote on something else that nullifies your vote altogether. It is very WRONG!I would suggest you ask Pat F. at your union meeting why this happen?....KK
It doesn't. I says the the IBT strong armed them into a situation where they do not want to be. New Penn had to revote, these guys just got there voices erased by the IBT. I have always been a strong union employee but this shows that our votes do not count as long as the big boys keep getting our money,
You are exactly right.For many years now the union has been little more than a business with one objective,and that is to take care of themselves and keep the dues coming in at any cost and this is a perfect example of that.While there are some good BAs and trustees that do try to help the membership,Hoffa and Tyson Johnson and their cronies are doing what they want and completely disregarding the voices and will of the membership.The same as Obama and the government is disregarding the voices and will of the American people. I never thought the union would try to erase the votes of the membership like they are.One has to wonder,with everything going on,who is Hoffa representing,the membership or $Bill Zollars.It`s obvious that Hoffa doesn`t care about the freight members anymore,but to erase their votes and disregard their voices is not what unionism is all about.While there is sill some people out there that have some pride in the union,it`s fading fast.
If all white paper contracts are null and void does that mean my friend at a cartage co will get a 5 dollar an hr raise? Could be interesting at small co,s.
1st the government has to stop taxing the small companies.
Our BA was down here today to explain. Chicago area locals were put under nmfa so they(company/international )could legally take the 5% and pension from 710 and 705. Our white paper contracts are null and void and nmfa rules apply. I love it--- been a long time coming. I'm a city driver--can I now bid the road under nmfa rules???
Our BA was down here today to explain. Chicago area locals were put under nmfa so they(company/international )could legally take the 5% and pension from 710 and 705. Our white paper contracts are null and void and nmfa rules apply. I love it--- been a long time coming. I'm a city driver--can I now bid the road under nmfa rules???
I say I love it only because our white paper contract sucked big time because of all the gray area" it's not in the contract bs".....it just seems the nmfa is spelled out a little more clear.
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It's looking good, looks like the end for 'end tailing' how in the world did that get into a teamster contract?
You keep the 5% and what ever else you won in the vote..check out last paragraph..below
Ya, seniority is spelled out in NMFA also
Last paragraph in memorandum: This is big language coming from the top....not the BA's
"Members covered by white paper contracts will not lose any existing working conditions contained in their contracts that are superior to those in the National Master Freight Agreement and its Supplements. Such superior conditions, if any, may include, but not be limited to separate grievance procedure, local work rules, superior wages, or benefits". according to this you keep the 5% +
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It's looking good, looks like the end for 'end tailing' how in the world did that get into a teamster contract?
You keep the 5% and what ever else you won in the vote..check out last paragraph..below
Ya, seniority is spelled out in NMFA also
Last paragraph in memorandum: This is big language coming from the top....not the BA's
"Members covered by white paper contracts will not lose any existing working conditions contained in their contracts that are superior to those in the National Master Freight Agreement and its Supplements. Such superior conditions, if any, may include, but not be limited to separate grievance procedure, local work rules, superior wages, or benefits". according to this you keep the 5% +
I'd like them to stop taxing me!!!! Why can't they leave us little guys alone!!!!!!!!!!
your input is always helpful, but you're wrong on this one, they give back 15 % from their higher full scale. Indy has a higher full scale than st. paul had, and now we give back off that higher rate.
Cmon Joe you know the answer. If YRC wants it, they will get it. We may not yet understand how it will happen, but happen it willWhat was the Chicago vote all about? I thought it was the 5% according to what Mr F. said in a memorandum. If you voted the 5% give back down while still white paper why do you lose it when the latest memorandum states you don't lose any existing gains or wages that are superior to the NMFA? Or is that open to interpretation?