truckerboy
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At the terminal I work at we have two men that refused to pay union dues,they also are wearing teamsters patch on there new uniforms,,,wtf
No matter the circumstance, right to work state or not, Contractually they have to pay dues... ABF even must enforce..I should say, ABF agreed on checkoff and dues being deducted..At the terminal I work at we have two men that refused to pay union dues,they also are wearing teamsters patch on there new uniforms,,,wtf
So if a dude works in a union barn in a RTW state but refuses to pay union dues can the union also refuse to "afford" any help to that driver ? Example file grieviences or follow the same procedures as dues paying members...In prison they have unwritten rules and those who dont play by those rules get "yard justice"..I'm sure there can be some "yard justice" served to those rats that want union perks without paying for it..My understanding is that in RTW states one does not have to pay a penny in union dues. In non-RTW states all must pay that fair share as it is called in public contracts or objector's fee as it is called in private sector contracts (state terminology vs NLRB terminology). Our contract mandates that the horseheads be affixed to any uniform the company acquires for us and requires us to wear...dues payer or not. But remember an old adage..."You Get What You Pay For"...and I always add my two cents..."If You Are Lucky".
Well...the Union cannot refuse to represent the person (wink, wink) but they can certainly adjust their approach to a problem. (wink, wink). And when said grievance does finally make it before a panel there might be a secret language that could identify said person as a non union "member" and seeing as it is teamsters and their pals at the table said grievant might hear the sound of a toilet flushing as they receive receive their decision. But they got the representation they paid for.So if a dude works in a union barn in a RTW state but refuses to pay union dues can the union also refuse to "afford" any help to that driver ? Example file grieviences or follow the same procedures as dues paying members...In prison they have unwritten rules and those who dont play by those rules get "yard justice"..I'm sure there can be some "yard justice" served to those rats that want union perks without paying for it..
In theory that would be correct but in reality those panels have the latitude to do whatever they want to whether it's right or wrong. And if it was a case that affected many the outcome could be different than if it was one of those that only affected one individual.Only problem with that is what happens to his grievance may affect a union member next time, if it has been lost once, the company can and will take advantage of it the next time it comes up. The union has to fight to win each grievance the same.
Yep......What he said. But as I think we have "closed shop" language in our contract, even in RTW states, they have to pay the service fee. I'm not exactly sure, though. Anyone in the Southern RTW(for less) states can enlighten us on how dues are collected? I've been told that in the smaller Locals in the RTW south, even the smallest grievances are sent to arbitration,.......in an attempt to...."break the bank" at that Local. Once again guys.......The Pogo Principle in action....."We Have Met The Enemy, And He Is Us."Well...the Union cannot refuse to represent the person (wink, wink) but they can certainly adjust their approach to a problem. (wink, wink). And when said grievance does finally make it before a panel there might be a secret language that could identify said person as a non union "member" and seeing as it is teamsters and their pals at the table said grievant might hear the sound of a toilet flushing as they receive receive their decision. But they got the representation they paid for.
In the freight and construction industries in the RTW states membership remains high. We are not freeloading turds like they are at other shops. i e Norther Tool in the Carolinas.I agree. We have two at our barn that don't pay dues but receive that same benefits. Only difference is they can't vote
We do have that "closed shop" language but we also have language something to the tune of, "Except where prohibited by law", and another clause known as "Saving(s) and Separability" which saves the rest of the contract should one portion of it be deemed illegal in any given area.But as I think we have "closed shop" language in our contract, even in RTW states, they have to pay the service fee.
Please keep us informed as to what they have to say about it.I think I will call the international in dc
YOUR THE MAN,YEARS BACK WHEN THINGS WERE BAD IN THE 80'S WE HAD TOP RATS THAT WOULD WORK THERE 6 AND 7TH DAY JUST SO ANY OF THE BOTTOM MEN COULD NOT GET 3 DAYS IN TO AT LEAST GET THERE FULL WK.OF H&W PAID.YOU ARE BEING TO KIND CALLING THEM RATBAGS.IT WAS SWEET WHEN THEY SHUT THE DOORS AND THEY WERE OUT ON THE STREET.RTW or not some of the biggest ratbags on the planet are in our membership.At the terminal I used to work at I thought the company motto was"Every man for himself women and children last"