You should see my place, fired a guy for grieving over the death of his father went home because he didn't sleep the night before tm fires him then says he didn't fire him. The man returns to work about a month later only to resign last Friday he was the number 2 man with 17 years. Ironically the day before he fired him we watched a video about mental ilness or going through tough times to let someone know about it.... well he did and was fired for it....
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Had 2 sanitation barns merge together, clear in contract, in the event, everyone will dove tail, had 1 member insist this is wrong, not right, not the intent of the language, spent an hour with him, he wanted to file a grievance, told him no grounds, you'll look like a fool, he didn't care, he filled out grievance, I said you'll have to present it to the executive board because I'm not moving forward with it, anyway he leaves work early, travels 50 miles 1 way to meeting, President of local looks at it, tells member stick this grievance up your ass end of meeting, some people you just can't help
He was into sports & had coached local sports teams. He wanted to continue with that mindset & make the rules at work as he did with the teams. The local BA sat across the table from him at a discharge hearing. The BA said the supervisor went to a battle of wits & came unarmed.
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Too bad he resigned. I think he could have asked for more time off to recover. All he would have had to have done was to have a doctor verify he needed time off. The company can not force him or his doctor to state what the illness is. That is protected by the medical privacy act. I remember an assistant TM called an employee's doctor & demanded to know what the medical problem was. The asistant TM was schooled about the privacy act & was fortunate to not lose his job.
He did have a doctors note. Just couldn’t take the TM anymore, We had at least 8 salespeople, clerks, supervisors & drivers transferred, quite or got fired. ABF is going to have a serious problem with the people they picked the steer the ship….
I remember another assistant TM like that. He ran off customers by his attitude. He constantly wrote warning letters. He cost the company untold amounts. Finally the hatchet man from company headquarters showed up & allowed him to get his personal items from his office, then escorted him off company property. This also happened to a management type in maintenance.
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So, did you turn in any proposals for changes to be made to the up coming 2023 contract negotiations? If not, then you have nothing to complain about. You take for granted all the great things that our contract offers like the fully paid pension and healthcare provided to you by this contract. You take for granted the Union representation provided to you when it comes to discipline, grievances, seniority, and on and on. And, I have yet to hear you state what the situation is that got you to the point that you want to quit paying your Union dues. I did read that you feel that your BA brushed aside you grievances in the past. Did you bother contacting him/her for an explanation? Chances are good that grievance or grievances had no merit or language to back up your claim(s). If you are so upset with the contract and people that represent you that you want to quit paying your dues, then you need to move along to a non-Union job. There, you will truly see the benefits of Union representation as you will not be able to voice your opinion or file a grievance. And good luck getting fully paid pension and health-care contributions made on your behalf by the employer.
The Union is only as strong as its members make it. If you choose not to participate in making it better and stronger, then you really have no reason to complain. Since you are so disgruntled with the Government, I would suggest you quit paying your taxes as well. Be sure and let us know how that works out for you!!!
You can hang some people with a NEW rope, and they're still going to complain.
I think you're wasting good ink.
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Go to FdxF & save $70 dollars a month. You'll have to pay for insurance but they get free hot dogs.
Maybe so, but are they all beef?Go to FdxF & save $70 dollars a month. You'll have to pay for insurance but they get free hot dogs.
The free hot dogs depends on if you are in front of Smokestack in line or behind him....lmao...Go to FdxF & save $70 dollars a month. You'll have to pay for insurance but they get free hot dogs.
Yea I did, and called union president , ask for new ba was told no . Dodge and deflect everything I said was a waste of time. . Why do you think the problem is me. I told you the truth. Why kick me.in life you have to say yes to everything light and dark . A lot in life is fraud. Look at the dark side like don't be scared. For a tree to grow to heaven the roots reach hell.
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Most BA’s cover more than one contract. He was appointed the BA for a reason by the Local. You still have not told what the issue or issues were involved with the grievances that you say the BA brushed aside. And, the reason I am questioning you is because you want to quit paying Union Dues and get a free ride while the rest of us pay our part. If you do get out of the Union I assume you will ask that the company to no longer pay in to your pension and healthcare as you are no longer in the Union and should therefore no longer receive Union benefits?
An option for you is to contact the labor relations board in your state. That is what those without union representation do. If indeed your local is not representating you the board will act. You will need to document facts to move forward. If you are paying dues & the local is ignoring contract violations you should get the labor board to help.
I do not recommend going to the labor board, always better to keep things in house, follow the chain of command, Steward, B.A., President, J.C. President, you said you contacted the President and that you wanted a new B.A., did you mention to him what your, gripe, grievance, complaint, issue was? was it a violation of the contract? if so, did it effect other members? do other members want B.A. removed? or is the issue something you just don't like?
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Doc, I agree that is an option if the Local is ignoring clear contract language. But, as Chappey stated, I would only use that as a last resort.
Clown, if your issues are with the pension or healthcare as you have already stated, then a grievance on that in most cases has no merit. When it comes to those two things, the companies only obligation by contract is paying the required weekly or monthly amount required. If you have a problem with a medical claim, your Local would be able to give you the contact info of the healthcare provider, but you would most likely have to contact the provider to get resolution. Same thing with our pension. If your grievances were over contract violations let us know what they were and maybe we can all help you here.
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Why is it that the ones who attempt to slide with their union dues always have problems ?
I know the barn I was at had 100 % paying dues.
Not to say just a couple had to be helped along by a few unfortunate turn of events.
Shop ran out of space for that last gallon on oil change,good thing the lunch box sitting in the cab held a gallon of oil to drink with his Sammy and chips.
Rubber band on fire extinguisher with pin hooked to the door worked real well helping one find his check book.
I know the barn I was at had 100 % paying dues.
Not to say just a couple had to be helped along by a few unfortunate turn of events.
Shop ran out of space for that last gallon on oil change,good thing the lunch box sitting in the cab held a gallon of oil to drink with his Sammy and chips.
Rubber band on fire extinguisher with pin hooked to the door worked real well helping one find his check book.
They do stuff like that to Yellow shuttle drivers who work too hard in Chicago
Rock, we were always told you must use all union avenues before going to the labor board, after J.C president, it would be Freight director, then I.B.T. president, going to the labor board with a D.F.R. (duty fair representation) charge is pretty serious, no local wants that on their record, would like to know what Clown's problem is, might be a new guy who doesn't know how things work or never had things explained to him or might just be a pain in the ass, who knows?