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ltl is great, i hope you're right on them having the same insurance as we do. at my prior jobs, the higher ups got a better ins pkg then the workers. i don't expect this place to be any different.
And "Obama Care" has nothing to do with rising insurance rates? Really??Your insurance rates are going up because you work for a company that has lost 10 million dollars through the 3rd quarter. As far as YOUR TEAMSTER BROTHER is concerned, you are only as successful, as the company that you work for. The Teamsters have nothing to do with the success of ABF, which I assume you work for. ABF is successful because of the folks in Ft. Smith, Ar, calling the shots. And they are successful while being tied down, and, restricted by union work rules, which is a victory in itself.
As a driver for a non union carrier, I really dislike the teamsters. When I started, most LTL carriers were union. However, 20 years later, where have they gone? The most successful carriers today (ODFL, SAIA, Central Transport, FXF, CNWY, Estes, R&L, SEFL, AAAC, Averitt, Pitt Ohio, etc..) are cancer, TEAMSTER, free.
Hey ltl is great ABF is making money so don't you worry about that. We will be here for the long haul and do you really think UPS is going to fold. Thats just silly talk and those boys will be at 26 and change an hour with O/T after 8 and set health insurance costs. So you just keep thinking unions are cancer, no bad and greedy management is cancer.
ltl1....26 an hour is for UPS Freight.....UPS Parcel makes 33 an hour plus change....The largest trucking company in the world thrive with unions...Its nice to have a union stewart next to me when you are called in to be ganged up on by management...To have a witness in case things get out of control...Management cant railroad drivers just because they have a personal agenda against someone that said something they didnt like...And if you fire someone you better have your ducks in a row...Because you will have more than the EEOC or dept of labor on you azz....
I think Vijax posted while pissed, sometimes when mad its not good to communicate in any kind of way. The only thing that I seen that will really hurt someone in the health assesment when they come out to screen you at the terminal. A lot of people taking that discount for non-smokers will be caught, just stop smoking (easy for me to say) until after the assesment.
I have never heard it said any better. A man's life is worth more than money. We work for the benefit of others for the most part. Our wives,Husbands and children.Some people will always hate the union....I suppose its the stigma that is associated with it from the days of Hoffa...All the corruption that happened in those years..As i prepare to retire in the next few years i can do so comfortably because i am debt free...And have a large sum of money saved..So many of my friends say i should wait until i'm 65 or 66 when medicare will kick in. But im going at 62...I have more than enough money to purchase some sort of supplemental health care plan. As i just sit back and read all that "Muler" is dealing with on ABF"s threads i can't help but wonder...If all those people were debt free and made good financial decision's their whole lives would it still be such a big issue...I wont comment on what is going on at ABF...But let me say this...Listen to Brother Muler...He's got your best interest at heart...And then listen to me...Get out of debt and stay out of debt. And retire as soon as you can so you can enjoy life to the fullest...There are no guarantee's about your health...Without that you have NOTHING ...And all the money in the world cant buy you one more minute when your time comes..
I have never heard it said any better. A man's life is worth more than money. We work for the benefit of others for the most part. Our wives,Husbands and children.
We by choice or by necessity became Truck Drivers and Dockworkers Is that a crime for which we are to be punished. Is ABF perfect HELL NO! Is Vitran NO!
It is not even a question of being union or not. It is a HUMAN THING!
Is it too much to ask that we be treated with respect and dignity. Is being a Truck Driver a reason to be treated as less than?
I hope not. Is it too much to ask that we be paid for a job that has been proven to shorten our lives. That recent studies have shown due to lack of sleep and a constant change in eating and sleeping habits one takes years off of their lives. One recent study has proven that Truck Driver sitting in their trucks for hours at a time takes years off their life expectancy.
This is not a call for you all to join the union. It is a call to say I believe we all deserve better. I just posted on a thread in the ABF Forum where our CEO of ABC made $1,347,407.00 last year and our top level city drivers may make $80,000.00 a year. At that rate it will take the driver 16.8 years of working the max hours weekly to equal one year of her pay. So in two years she will earn what it will take a Driver 33.6 years to earn. A WHOLE CAREER!
Are we that less than as the Drivers and Dockworkers? Again I hope not. You Brothers at Vitran have issues that are not of your doings and some that are. If we don't load trailers right then damages occur that is our fault. If we do not get to our destinations on time that is our fault.
But when a company is deep in debt it is the fault of the management. When we are not given the proper equipment too do our jobs correctly it is not our fault. You Brothers at Vitran our in trouble and as far as being an outsider looking in it appears management dropped the ball. You have but two choices.#1 you can give up and run. or #2 You can pull yourselves up by your boot straps and demand that your management turns thing around immediately or the end will not be far away. Don't be afraid to stand up and tell them as a whole the BUCK STOPS HERE! I know from reading your posts(By the way I think you all have one of the best forums on this site) that you all can get it done. I don't mean for you Brothers to take less compensation I mean for you all to stop taking any CRAP! I hope the best for you all and if worse comes to worse I hope to see many of you at ABF! YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
No man is worth his salt who is not ready at all times to risk his body, to risk his well being,to risk his life,in a great cause, Theodore Roosevelt. I have always thought it pathetic that so many don't have the courage to stand up for what they believe. That was a great post, yet so many have nothing to say about it...The Mule man speaks great wisdom..Yet so many dont care to comment. Like he said... its not about being union or non-union...Its a HUMAN THING.... I personally think they want to distance themselves from him because he's in the union...He talks about our life as a trucker...How its been proven to shorten our lifes...Think about all the fumes we breathe in...all the carcinogen's we breathe in as trucker's...Are we that shallow as human being's as to not comment on that...The money issue's he speaks of on the CEO is true. But i could understand not wanting to beat a dead horse on that subject...But our health...Come on guys....Anyway Mule man if you ever come back to visit us...GREAT POST!!!!I have never heard it said any better. A man's life is worth more than money. We work for the benefit of others for the most part. Our wives,Husbands and children.
We by choice or by necessity became Truck Drivers and Dockworkers Is that a crime for which we are to be punished. Is ABF perfect HELL NO! Is Vitran NO!
It is not even a question of being union or not. It is a HUMAN THING!
Is it too much to ask that we be treated with respect and dignity. Is being a Truck Driver a reason to be treated as less than?
I hope not. Is it too much to ask that we be paid for a job that has been proven to shorten our lives. That recent studies have shown due to lack of sleep and a constant change in eating and sleeping habits one takes years off of their lives. One recent study has proven that Truck Driver sitting in their trucks for hours at a time takes years off their life expectancy.
This is not a call for you all to join the union. It is a call to say I believe we all deserve better. I just posted on a thread in the ABF Forum where our CEO of ABC made $1,347,407.00 last year and our top level city drivers may make $80,000.00 a year. At that rate it will take the driver 16.8 years of working the max hours weekly to equal one year of her pay. So in two years she will earn what it will take a Driver 33.6 years to earn. A WHOLE CAREER!
Are we that less than as the Drivers and Dockworkers? Again I hope not. You Brothers at Vitran have issues that are not of your doings and some that are. If we don't load trailers right then damages occur that is our fault. If we do not get to our destinations on time that is our fault.
But when a company is deep in debt it is the fault of the management. When we are not given the proper equipment too do our jobs correctly it is not our fault. You Brothers at Vitran our in trouble and as far as being an outsider looking in it appears management dropped the ball. You have but two choices.#1 you can give up and run. or #2 You can pull yourselves up by your boot straps and demand that your management turns thing around immediately or the end will not be far away. Don't be afraid to stand up and tell them as a whole the BUCK STOPS HERE! I know from reading your posts(By the way I think you all have one of the best forums on this site) that you all can get it done. I don't mean for you Brothers to take less compensation I mean for you all to stop taking any CRAP! I hope the best for you all and if worse comes to worse I hope to see many of you at ABF! YOUR BROTHER ALWAYS!
Finally someone that has a good set of ballsmuler you said it like it should be said. I came to Vitran early in 08, it was a better then average LTL job then, but all it took was some not so smart investments over and over again, and this is where we are at today. we havent turned a profit since 3rd quarter of 08 I think. I have stuck it out with never getting a raise until this past month. 00.25 cents. that was a spit in the face if I ever seen one. There is way too many brown nosers trying to get ahead of the next guy, there is no law and order with this company, hell you can ask the workers thats started from 2009 to this present day, and ask them what are one of the rules at vitran, or what is their attendence policy. you know what they willl tell you? " well I heard it was like this or, I think someone told it was like that"....... THATS BECUZ THEY QUIT HANDED RULE/POLICY BOOKS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. It is pure ignorance to sit behind the desk and tell your employees what ever rules they want to tell them, and they change on a daily basis. We have turned into the laughing stock of the LTL business. You have new hires getting the weekend work when you have people that want the work who have been there for many years, why you ask? its for a cut rate. top pay linehaul varys from .611 cpm- .545 cpm. but the starting pay .39cpm- .435cpm. And the T.M's across the board will all tell you now " this is a non-union truckline, so your senority means nothing here, the only thing its good for is how many vacation days you get a year. So this is why next week I will be leaving Vitran. I will be going to a company in which (ltl is great) would calll it " a cancer". I need the law and order in my work place, I am tired of geting stepped on like some little cockroach............. thank you and good night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!