As far as unions go, my mind goes back to Consolidated Freightways and Gross Common Carrier, two carriers that after a Union fight said to heck with them, closed their doors, walked away with all the money and left everyone screwed, same as Pabst Beer in Milwaukee......so don't try and convince me that Unions are always the best way to go. Considering what Con Way does for their people, they would lose wages and benefits joining the Teamsters, and at the same time they are free to discharge those that don't measure up to their standards, thereby raising the normal driver to elite status. If there is another LTL carrier I would want to move to and stay till retirement, Con Way has a lot to offer, but, not hiring in my area right now.