You can forget working an extra day on the weekend

Discussion in 'Saia' started by Dracula, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. upnorth

    upnorth Super Moderator Staff Member

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    SAIA and xpo are the only two companies using the vnomics. Their software also doesn’t stop the clock when you take your 30, so your loosing a 1/2 hour a day of work/drive time.
     
  2. upnorth

    upnorth Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Doesn’t stop the clock.
     
  3. PhilWilliams

    PhilWilliams Member

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    You’ve mentioned ratting out Saia drivers before and you implied it here. I think it’s funny how your still owned by Saia. There were some real turds in the ATL term years ago. I remember two getting pulled into a scale for overweight. Instead of reworking the load one driver managed to slide his tandems, the other driver went in and ratted him out to the weighmaster. They walked out and let him go, did a full DOT on the rat. Guess there’s one in every crowd, should be one less in our crowd though....
     
  4. PhilWilliams

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    Nothing stops your 14 hour clock, break time stops your on duty time from coming off your 70 in 8.
     
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  5. bigbuck

    bigbuck Well-Known Member

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    I'm bored, so why not...??? "Implied" means nothing. I made a statement saying that isn't right for your (or any) company to condone illegal behavior. And as far as being "owned" by Saia? Not really sure what that is supposed to "imply" (to use your term).

    Drivers have a responsibility to follow the rules of the road as outlined by the Federal Government agency responsible for such, the DOT. If you want to run illegal, that is your choice. But if you get caught, it goes on your driving record and can be held against you. And if you are caught and try to fight it in court, there is zero chance that Saia (or any other company) would admit that you were told to do so. If running a legal company that follows the rules set forth by the DOT makes me a "turd", then so be it. My honesty, integrity, and driving history speak for themselves. How about you?
     
  6. PhilWilliams

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    30+ years driving, over 20 with Saia, zero safety violations, zero csa points, and nothing more then a overweight ticket. Those are my creds.

    You stated, “This is a public forum, and this will be brought to the attention of the Illinois and Indiana DOT.”
    Not could, but ‘will’ be brought. That’s implied. I’m sure you were being honest about ratting other drivers out, I don’t doubt it one bit. Maybe you got canned for not minding your own business. It seems like a trend.
     
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  7. bigbuck

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    I wasn’t terminated. I brought a lawsuit against your company that was settled out of court for a mutually agreed upon monetary amount. That number is confidential.

    Let’s stay on point...your company’s system, policies, and procedures are flawed. I don’t think anyone could dispute that.
     
  8. maverick50

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    So, you actually think there is a difference between Republicans and Democrats? The point I was trying to make is, that great ex- president we had is the reason we have this stupid, liberal ELD now because of the people he put in charge of the DOT and FMCSA. Unfortunately, this administration is going along with the stupid rules of the previous administration. Also, I feel this law is going to make things worse on the highway, as drivers are now going to have to drive more miles in a shorter amount of time to get the freight delivered.
     
  9. conartist

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    Sure, you make perfect sense.
     
  10. PhilWilliams

    PhilWilliams Member

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    Glad your finally not denying it anymore. That’s the first step to letting go.
     
  11. gearraker

    gearraker Active Member

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    Why ive worked 6 days the last month
     
  12. PhilWilliams

    PhilWilliams Member

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    I haven’t lost any time with the ELD’s but I’m not working six days a week anyway. I was hoping for a four day schedule myself.
     
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  13. murkdonalds

    murkdonalds New Member

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    This new vnomics update is NOT a DOT regulation. All this mine/not mine crap is made up. Since when are you supposed to go on duty for starting a truck?
     
  14. bigbuck

    bigbuck Well-Known Member

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    I think anytime that you are starting a truck you would be considered on duty. Think about it like this: If you get into a truck, start it, then slip while in the process of getting out of the truck and break an ankle, wouldn't you (the employee) say that you were on duty, so that Workman's Comp would pay? Work. Comp doesn't pay anything unless you are "on the clock" or "on duty".
     
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  15. murkdonalds

    murkdonalds New Member

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    I see what you’re saying but say you’re OTR shut down at a truck stop and in the middle of your break you have to use the bathroom or want to get something to eat? You don’t go on duty to get in and out of the truck. Companies don’t want you leaving the keys in the ignition so you starting/shutting down the engine is inevitable while off duty. I’ve never thought of that scenario but I would hope there are some sort of protections in place for that. And also all my trucker friends I explain this new update to they’re left scratching their heads. I don’t know of any other company with this mine/not mine crap lol.
     
  16. joes bar and grill

    joes bar and grill Well-Known Member

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    I would think in that situation yo would be covered under comp, but a reasonable person would not report to his place of employment just to star a truck, it would be in preparation to go to work.
     
  17. bigbuck

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    In that situation, you actually are covered under work comp. Because you are in possession of company property (under dispatch presumably) off of company premises, you are still responsible for that rig and therefore covered by work comp. The way that you wouldn't be covered is if you took the company truck to the truck stop and then just left it. (Quitting employment, going off duty for a vacation, etc...) The work comp laws are pretty involved, but these are the general guidelines as I understand them.

    Further...If you are under dispatch from Saia and stop at the Flying J for your lunch, you log your lunch and take the keys with you inside for your break. Even though you are off duty, you do bear some responsibility for that rig because you are in possession of the keys and will return to duty after your break. Work comp would cover an injury because you are still under dispatch. Clear as mud, right?
     
  18. troubleman84

    troubleman84 Well-Known Member

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    Last time I checked it’s still the same 14 clock 11 hour drive if you’ve been doing it since the beginning there would be no bitch right
     
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