Speaking of PTS and Rail (from the conference call)...
Jeff Kauffman
Hi, guys. How are you? You address my -- I had one question on rent and PT. I was just surprised it was up so much and I think you are attributing most of that to the shortage of drivers that you had. Was there anything else that was driving that up?
Jamie Pierson
Yes. So the two pieces of this equation, Jeff, one, that's where we fit our conditional over the road cartridge in rail but we also, yes we could, our operating lease expense as we kind of consolidated the results. So this is a strange quarter where we've seen some increases in traditional PT the way the most people look at it. But we've also continue to see an increase in the operating lease expense as we continue to take on new equipment. But that hasn't probably changed in a last year or two. And I don't anticipate it to change in the foreseeable future either.
Jeff Kauffman
Okay. And that also where you have the inter model PT correct?
Jamie Pierson
Yes.
Jeff Kauffman
Okay. What are the trends in that?
James Welch
We have a math we can use for our contract with them, we can use 26% of our road miles via rail and our purchase transportation and we can over the road purchase transportation and we can exceed over the road purchase transportation of more than 6%. So it depends on how we want to run our inter modal and over the road purchase transportation operations depending on time of year, time of month, time of week et cetera.