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wild deuce

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Mr. Smid let us know that it is not the pricing of the customers we are concerned with but the concern is with the customers themselves. Get the customer and the revenue will follow. I got to thinking how we could do this in this economy...and I came to a certain conclusion...big time backing from someone...must be coming from somewhere, (well this is my own commentary on the way things are going) but this makes sense to me: if anyone can tell anyone how YRC (Yellow Roadway) got Holland (YRCW) and it contradicts what I'm saying, I'll get off the subject. (not until then). Here goes...I'm on the website (DHL) right now while I'm typing this...they have their own bank and everything...sounds like a financial banking partner to me...http://www.truckingboards.com/trucking/upload/yellow-freight/yellow-freight/www.DHL.Com...find the oh so small banner that says "deutcshe post world net mail express logistics finance" and click on it...wella...come back and tell me what you found...:1036316054:

did you find dhl global yet? I did...
 
And the bad news.....

DHL has contracted with the USPS and UPS to deliver their freight in many areas. NOT YRCW.
 
what else do we know

And the bad news.....

DHL has contracted with the USPS and UPS to deliver their freight in many areas. NOT YRCW.
do we know who handles our (YRCW) air/sea freight since we go overseas? Is it multiple airline/shipline, does anyone know? I don't think we have our own ships/airplanes. This is what I am asking.
 
Wild Duece,
This is an excerpt from YRCW's SEC 10-K filing on Mar. 1, 2007...

4.3 Indenture (including form of note) dated August 8, 2003 among Yellow Roadway
Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust Company
Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's 5.0%
Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated by reference to
Exhibit 4.5 to Registration Statement on Form S-4, filed on August 19, 2003,
Reg. No. 333-108081).


4.4 Supplemental Indenture, dated as of December 11, 2003, among Roadway LLC, as
successor obligor, YRC Worldwide, Inc., as a Guarantor, and SunTrust Bank,
as Trustee, supplementing the Indenture, dates as of November 30, 2001 for
the Roadway Corporation 8 1/4% Senior Notes due December 1, 2008
(incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.8 to the Annual Report on Form 10-K
for the year ended December 31, 2003, Reg. No. 000-1225).


4.5 Indenture (including form of note) dated November 25, 2003 among Yellow
Roadway Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust
Company Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's
3.375% Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated by
reference to Exhibit 4.7 to Registration Statement on Form S-8, filed on
December 23, 2003, Reg. No. 333-111499).


4.6 Supplemental Indenture, dated as of June 27, 2005, among Yellow Roadway
Corporation as New Guarantor, USF Corporation, the Existing Guarantor
Subsidiaries under the indenture and J.P. Morgan Trust Company, National
Association as Trustee, supplementing the Indenture, dated as of May 5, 1999
(as supplemented and in effect as of the date of the Supplemental
Indenture), for the USF Corporation (formerly USFreightways Corporation) 6
1/2% Guaranteed Notes due May 1, 2009 and USF Corporation (formerly
USFreightways Corporation) 8 1/2% Guaranteed Notes due April 15, 2010
(incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.6 to the Annual Report on Form 10-K
for the year ended December 31, 2006, Reg. No. 000-1225).


4.7 Indenture (including form of note) dated November 30, 2001 among Roadway
Corporation (predecessor in interest to Roadway LLC), certain subsidiary
guarantors and SunTrust Bank, as trustee, relating to Roadway's 8 1/4%
Senior Notes due December 1, 2008 (incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.9
to Registration Statement on Form S-8, filed on December 23, 2003, Reg. No.
333-111499).


4.8 Indenture (including form of note) dated December 31, 2004, among Yellow
Roadway Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust
Company Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's 5.0%
Net Share Settled Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated
by reference to Exhibit 4.7 to Amendment No. 1 to Registration Statement on
Form S-4/A, filed on November 30, 2004, Reg. No. 333-119990).


... If you will note, YRCW depends on several financial institutions for "backing". Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas and Deutsche Post (German postal service and owners of DHL) are two totally different entities. The purchase by YRCW of USF Corporation appears to have been financed, in part, by JP Morgan Trust Company...

I hope this helps...
 
Thank you Hombre,
This paranoid notion (never backed with the facts) that DHL is YRC's evil stepmother is really getting old. I don't suspect many will spend the time to confirm the existence of the excerpt you have posted, nor to confirm that Deutsche Post Bank and Deutsche Bank are not related. Understanding the truth doesn't promote the chicken little agenda.
 
One more time:

"Deutsch" is the German word for "German."

German Post Office (DHL), German Bank, etc.

How rude of them to use a word that fosters all these consipiracy theories!

Makes me wonder if overseas folks think the U.S. government actually owns FedEx.

You know, Federal Reserve....Federal Express....

OMG! THERE'S your conspiracy! Can't believe I didn't think of that before!!

Oaf.
 
thanks

Wild Duece,
This is an excerpt from YRCW's SEC 10-K filing on Mar. 1, 2007...

4.3 Indenture (including form of note) dated August 8, 2003 among Yellow Roadway
Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust Company
Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's 5.0%
Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated by reference to
Exhibit 4.5 to Registration Statement on Form S-4, filed on August 19, 2003,
Reg. No. 333-108081).


4.4 Supplemental Indenture, dated as of December 11, 2003, among Roadway LLC, as
successor obligor, YRC Worldwide, Inc., as a Guarantor, and SunTrust Bank,
as Trustee, supplementing the Indenture, dates as of November 30, 2001 for
the Roadway Corporation 8 1/4% Senior Notes due December 1, 2008
(incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.8 to the Annual Report on Form 10-K
for the year ended December 31, 2003, Reg. No. 000-1225).


4.5 Indenture (including form of note) dated November 25, 2003 among Yellow
Roadway Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust
Company Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's
3.375% Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated by
reference to Exhibit 4.7 to Registration Statement on Form S-8, filed on
December 23, 2003, Reg. No. 333-111499).


4.6 Supplemental Indenture, dated as of June 27, 2005, among Yellow Roadway
Corporation as New Guarantor, USF Corporation, the Existing Guarantor
Subsidiaries under the indenture and J.P. Morgan Trust Company, National
Association as Trustee, supplementing the Indenture, dated as of May 5, 1999
(as supplemented and in effect as of the date of the Supplemental
Indenture), for the USF Corporation (formerly USFreightways Corporation) 6
1/2% Guaranteed Notes due May 1, 2009 and USF Corporation (formerly
USFreightways Corporation) 8 1/2% Guaranteed Notes due April 15, 2010
(incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.6 to the Annual Report on Form 10-K
for the year ended December 31, 2006, Reg. No. 000-1225).


4.7 Indenture (including form of note) dated November 30, 2001 among Roadway
Corporation (predecessor in interest to Roadway LLC), certain subsidiary
guarantors and SunTrust Bank, as trustee, relating to Roadway's 8 1/4%
Senior Notes due December 1, 2008 (incorporated by reference to Exhibit 4.9
to Registration Statement on Form S-8, filed on December 23, 2003, Reg. No.
333-111499).


4.8 Indenture (including form of note) dated December 31, 2004, among Yellow
Roadway Corporation, certain subsidiary guarantors and Deutsche Bank Trust
Company Americas, as trustee, relating to Yellow Roadway Corporation's 5.0%
Net Share Settled Contingent Convertible Senior Notes due 2023 (incorporated
by reference to Exhibit 4.7 to Amendment No. 1 to Registration Statement on
Form S-4/A, filed on November 30, 2004, Reg. No. 333-119990).


... If you will note, YRCW depends on several financial institutions for "backing". Deutsche Bank Trust Company Americas and Deutsche Post (German postal service and owners of DHL) are two totally different entities. The purchase by YRCW of USF Corporation appears to have been financed, in part, by JP Morgan Trust Company...

I hope this helps...
It does help and I guess I can stop at that. Thankyou. I do have another question, though...Do you know who we (YRCW)contract through to get our customers' goods between continents?
 
One more time:

"Deutsch" is the German word for "German."

German Post Office (DHL), German Bank, etc.

How rude of them to use a word that fosters all these consipiracy theories!

Makes me wonder if overseas folks think the U.S. government actually owns FedEx.

You know, Federal Reserve....Federal Express....

OMG! THERE'S your conspiracy! Can't believe I didn't think of that before!!

Oaf.
Psst. its the other way around. Shhh.
 
20 years ago YELLOW relied on customs brokers for their international documentation services.

10 years ago they started to do it all themselves.

i can verify this because i had a great conversation with one of the guys that did that in nyc at a bike rally in '99.

the way he told it to me was that the most important factor in international commerce is documentation and not how the products move actually big ships and color matched containers don't do much.

if you have ever had to wait at an airfreight shed or a pier for documentation clearance you would understand completely.

that's what we're setting up right now for china ltl commerce, is the infrastructure to move ltl semalessly from chinese door to american door.

nodody else is doing it now.
 
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