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LTLIndentured said:
Unfortunately IBT has shown no backbone so a strike is unlikely. I guess there would be no difference. UAW will at least stand up for its members.
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I feel your pain LTL, but I think you're being a little hard on the Teamsters. They have to tread lightly these days, as they don't have the power they once had. If you're going to initiate a strike, it better be one that you can win. Look at YRC, for example. I don't think they could have squeezed anything more out of them. They just didn't have it to give. A strike, in this case, may have been devastating to all. Let's get the membership back to where it was and I think we'll all see a much different attitude.
 
LTLIndentured said:
What’s the ceva model
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Ceva uses independent contractors to move their freight. Owner operators who bear ALL the costs of operating their trucks and tractors and are paid on a 1099 IRS form. They still hire some company drivers, but I believe the majority of their drivers are owner operators. They may be paid by mileage, weight or on a daily rate. The IC's are responsible for their vehicle payments, insurance (both auto and health) , fuel, maintenance, tolls, tires, etc. They get no vacation, no PTO, no uniforms, no pallet jacks or hand trucks and the company is free from paying their share of social security and Medicare. The company doesn't pay workmen's comp or disability either. It a great setup for the company...not so good for their drivers.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Ceva uses independent contractors to move their freight. Owner operators who bear ALL the costs of operating their trucks and tractors and are paid on a 1099 IRS form. They still hire some company drivers, but I believe the majority of their drivers are owner operators. They may be paid by mileage, weight or on a daily rate. The IC's are responsible for their vehicle payments, insurance (both auto and health) , fuel, maintenance, tolls, tires, etc. They get no vacation, no PTO, no uniforms, no pallet jacks or hand trucks and the company is free from paying their share of social security and Medicare. The company doesn't pay workmen's comp or disability either. It a great setup for the company...not so good for their drivers.
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I have a friend who is an IC and he pulls reefers. He likes being his own boss and he clears enough money after taxes and expenses to easily take care of his family. For health insurance, he is on his wife's work policy. It can be done, it's not the end of the world being an IC.
 
ScotchNeat said:
I have a friend who is an IC and he pulls reefers. He likes being his own boss and he clears enough money after taxes and expenses to easily take care of his family. For health insurance, he is on his wife's work policy. It can be done, it's not the end of the world being an IC.
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What if God forbid his wife should pass away?
 
ScotchNeat said:
I have a friend who is an IC and he pulls reefers. He likes being his own boss and he clears enough money after taxes and expenses to easily take care of his family. For health insurance, he is on his wife's work policy. It can be done, it's not the end of the world being an IC.
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I was an IC for 39 years in New York. I did very well and also was on my wife's insurance. You are right that it can be done, but it's far more complicated than it seems and far more complicated than it was back then. Just the documentation regarding registrations, permits, IFTA and ELD's is overwhelming in itself. I spoke with a few Ceva drivers and they do get some help with all of this from the company. so, it's not terrible, but I think most company drivers don't have the desire to take on the extra responsibility.
 
Hollywoodz said:
Ceva uses independent contractors to move their freight. Owner operators who bear ALL the costs of operating their trucks and tractors and are paid on a 1099 IRS form. They still hire some company drivers, but I believe the majority of their drivers are owner operators. They may be paid by mileage, weight or on a daily rate. The IC's are responsible for their vehicle payments, insurance (both auto and health) , fuel, maintenance, tolls, tires, etc. They get no vacation, no PTO, no uniforms, no pallet jacks or hand trucks and the company is free from paying their share of social security and Medicare. The company doesn't pay workmen's comp or disability either. It a great setup for the company...not so good for their drivers.
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That's the Fed-Ex Ground model. Every body is a contractor or works for a contractor. The company bears no cost for any employee costs. They pay the contractor and the contractor bears the costs of operation.
 
cavscoutdad said:
That's the Fed-Ex Ground model. Every body is a contractor or works for a contractor. The company bears no cost for any employee costs. They pay the contractor and the contractor bears the costs of operation.
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Didn't know that. Seems that's two major freight companies now screwing the pooch! Don't let XPO be next!
 
Puff Driver said:
If a union member dies before they retire most often they only receive 60 pension payments unless they have made some other arrangement. The rest of the $$$ goes back to the fund.
You are always better off taking care of your self...
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Most people take survivorship benefits which guarantees less payout over the years in trade fo benefits extending to their spouse.
A defined benefits pension is payed out as long as you or spouse are alive. 10 or 100yrs it still pays . Even in market downturns.
With a 401k you could potentially outlive your nest egg or loose a good amount in a market downturn if YOU don’t mange it properly.
Defined benefits plane is All paid by the employer.
401k is paid by you with a small employer match as compared to a pension.
The ideal situation is to have both.

Their are pros and cons to both.
 
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Hollywoodz said:
Ceva uses independent contractors to move their freight. Owner operators who bear ALL the costs of operating their trucks and tractors and are paid on a 1099 IRS form. They still hire some company drivers, but I believe the majority of their drivers are owner operators. They may be paid by mileage, weight or on a daily rate. The IC's are responsible for their vehicle payments, insurance (both auto and health) , fuel, maintenance, tolls, tires, etc. They get no vacation, no PTO, no uniforms, no pallet jacks or hand trucks and the company is free from paying their share of social security and Medicare. The company doesn't pay workmen's comp or disability either. It a great setup for the company...not so good for their drivers.
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Then what the hell are we, FedEx Freight, UPSF, YRC, ABF, and OD??? We are all independent contractors. Companies hire us to move the goods. They hire us so they don't have to bear the cost, your words, of a trucking operation. We are just a bigger operation.
 
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