Well you are entitled to your opinion and the same for me. I have decided to move on, I have some friends that work for Con-Way that I would hate to see out on the street. It really sucks starting over again. Some of my friends that worked a Red Star start over at Holland had a tough time but they worked through it, and now have a union job again. Was it right that CF and Red Star was closed down??? Absolutely not, but there is nothing a p&d driver can do about it. They say time will heal your wounds, maybe it will for you.:smilie_132: