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Uh, this guy said .ss will he get booted for that?
They don't need a reason to ban me. They do it for fun.
Uh, this guy said .ss will he get booted for that?
Like highspeed said majority of drivers to old to fight back not gonna say broke down cause we don't work hard. New ones who are just coming in are not complaining because they received a pay raise and and don't understand the fact that they have a little say in their future over here. Our union is only strong as the head at the top. As long as Hoffa is our GP we will never gain anything in future contracts. Freight, parcels, and carhaul division is mostly united in getting rid of him, but produce, warehouse, and every other small division have a decent contract and could care less so they keep him office. That's the reason why the teamsters are not like they where in the early 50s 60s 70s and 90s. United we stand divided we fall. Uncle Sam and corporate America wins. Tim Silvestor 2016How are you fighting against YRC/Holland taking YOUR compensation and pension away?
How are you fighting against YRC/Holland taking YOUR compensation and pension away?
Like highspeed said majority of drivers to old to fight back not gonna say broke down cause we don't work hard. New ones who are just coming in are not complaining because they received a pay raise and and don't understand the fact that they have a little say in their future over here. Our union is only strong as the head at the top. As long as Hoffa is our GP we will never gain anything in future contracts. Freight, parcels, and carhaul division is mostly united in getting rid of him, but produce, warehouse, and every other small division have a decent contract and could care less so they keep him office. That's the reason why the teamsters are not like they where in the early 50s 60s 70s and 90s. United we stand divided we fall. Uncle Sam and corporate America wins. Tim Silvestor 2016
How are you fighting against YRC/Holland taking YOUR compensation and pension away?
Btw, why not explain your layover/breakdown/delay pay, along with your 100 a week for insurance, and then explain how much better off you are sitting for free, waiting for your load.
"There is a fine line between dreams and reality, it's up to us to draw it."Pipe dreams are indefensible. You can't argue a fantasy.
I have explained it. Several times. And I do not sit for free. It's $7.50/hr for NO effort on my part. You see I'm sitting. Doing nothing. And getting paid something. For doing nothing. You seem confused. You are all about that free insurance but forget that 15% of your wages aren't being given to you. The company is stealing from you. If for example you make $1000 in a week, you give then back $150. I pay $100 for insurance for my whole family. Which is more, $100 or $150?
Ok I answered yours, you ducked mine. What are you doing to fight YRC about your wages and pension?
"There is a fine line between dreams and reality, it's up to us to draw it."
So, the big 7.50, huh, after 4 hours?you realize that i make a couple hundred every week on my hourly pay, compared to your 35 or so dollars?
i didnt duck anything, but i would have a hardtime explaining it to a guy who sits for free when his load isnt ready.
Me and bill both came in after all the concessions were in place. So we can miss what we never had leave that for and Ole hand to argue. But if you breakdown our health care even if you say the 15% is paying for it. We still have a better deal compared to what Conway offers in term of deductibles maximum out of pocket expenses etc.I have explained it. Several times. And I do not sit for free. It's $7.50/hr for NO effort on my part. You see I'm sitting. Doing nothing. And getting paid something. For doing nothing. You seem confused. You are all about that free insurance but forget that 15% of your wages aren't being given to you. The company is stealing from you. If for example you make $1000 in a week, you give then back $150. I pay $100 for insurance for my whole family. Which is more, $100 or $150?
Ok I answered yours, you ducked mine. What are you doing to fight YRC about your wages and pension?
Ummm, yeah you did. You are purposefully ducking my question because you don't have an answer. I understand. You come from a union family. It's all you know. You've been convinced the union is the only way. I'm sorry you feel insecure of yourself so much you need someone else to fight your fights.
I don't sit for free. I get delay immediately. And breakdown immedjately. Like as soon as the delay starts. How many times do I have to tell you that? I know it may not be my whole hourly rate but so what? I'm doing NOTHING to earn it. If you are going to ignore my questions and misrepresent what I say and try to look down your nose at me because I've not been brainwashed that being represented by a corrupt organization is the only way to work when all you all do is bitch and moan that the union sold you down the river, then I guess we have nothing to say to each other.
Ummm, yeah you did. You are purposefully ducking my question because you don't have an answer. I understand. You come from a union family. It's all you know. You've been convinced the union is the only way. I'm sorry you feel insecure of yourself so much you need someone else to fight your fights.
I don't sit for free. I get delay immediately. And breakdown immedjately. Like as soon as the delay starts. How many times do I have to tell you that? I know it may not be my whole hourly rate but so what? I'm doing NOTHING to earn it. If you are going to ignore my questions and misrepresent what I say and try to look down your nose at me because I've not been brainwashed that being represented by a corrupt organization is the only way to work when all you all do is bitch and moan that the union sold you down the river, then I guess we have nothing to say to each other.
Let's be clear Train, the Pension leverage did NOT contribute to the ability of UPSF drivers to organize. The Pension leverage DID CONTRIBUTE to the quality of their contract, no doubt.There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some people who face reality, and then there are those who turn one into the other. Face reality as it is, not as you wish it to be. When was the last time the Teamsters organized a major LTL company? It was UPS. And that was because of the pension leverage. Don't ever see that happening again. Let's just start with the reality that corporations cannot guarantee anyone a lifetime job any more than corporations have a guarantee of immortality.
if i had your insurance, id be in the poorhouse for my daughters heart surgery last year. Minimum wage in most states is higher than what you get for breakdown and delay. I guess the union must seem corrupt to you after sitting 3 hours and making what i make in one.
after the 4 hours that is, lol.....im glad you like your job, what do you want me to say? I came here AFTER the MOU vote. id still take it over everything but upsf, upsp, and abf, or pipeline or movie work that is permanent....
You are absolutely correct. The Teamsters simply don't have enough to offer .... Otherwise they wouldn't be struggling to get Conway and FedEx .... The workers just aren't buying what the Teamsters are selling. From the very beginning terminals would have started falling like dominos ..... Instead it's one step forward and two steps back. It all comes down to who is the better salesman I suppose. If the workers want the Teamsters they will have it. You are correct. The problem is that they don't want it. That should be very clear by now.The hard part is uniting that workforce for a common goal.
You are absolutely correct. The Teamsters simply don't have enough to offer .... Otherwise they wouldn't be struggling to get Conway and FedEx .... The workers just aren't buying what the Teamsters are selling. From the very beginning terminals would have started falling like dominos ..... Instead it's one step forward and two steps back. It all comes down to who is the better salesman I suppose. If the workers want the Teamsters they will have it. You are correct. The problem is that they don't want it. That should be very clear by now.