STOP AND THINK AND READ THE ORGINAL PROPOSAL !, Ms, Kaptur, is not saying stop the cuts. Just slow down and make the discussion possible and to make the cuts fair. Right now about 195,000 will take about a 50% cut, spread the cuts out to the entire 410,000. We all will take a 25% cut. This whole thing is about the Orphans, well guess what, UNION means, the whole group. Why should I take a 50 % cut when a man who is eighty and makes more than me take no cut? Until this is properly examined on it's own merit, I will not be shut up. This is purely a political thing, maybe some cuts are necessary, Think about the costs to the cities and the tax loss to the nation. This is not the only union to ask for the cuts. This is all about the PBGC.. I am mad as hell. Most people retired with the knowledge they could make it on the pension, then the rug is pulled out from under them. Let me ask you who are still working, If your employer just said, we are cutting your pay in half, what would you say about your bills? Same thing. Maybe everyone should be like JEFF, and have no debt.