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Yellow | Hearing tomorrow for 9 guys walked out of 135

I'm not an elitist, but I do work for Holland. You may think we don't have break-bulks. Stop in at one of our so called velocity centers & see how many times the freight is being handled.
 
Last I heard waiting for the hearings at the national level to determine if it's in fact grievable.
Since the contract states no recourse I'm betting it's not.
 
if they were walked off the dock because a stupervisor thaught the were working a slow down seems to me they will all get back with pay.
after all i still havent seem them slip anything about bills per hour only a fair day for fair pay
 
bigtruk_us said:
I haven't figured out what those 9 guys did to get escorted out.I read that story months ago.sorry if I look stupid.
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Story is they orchestrated a slow-down. Any way you cut it it should be grievable. YRC asserts that these guys did something wrong and a hearing panel has to hear the case to determine if they did or if they didn't. I don't get the part where they have to find out if it is a grievable issue.
 
It's in the greatest contract ever.

Copied from JayZ's post #10

It is specifically understood and agreed that the Employer during
the first twenty-four (24) - hour period of such unauthorized work
stoppage in violation of this Agreement, shall have the sole and
complete right of reasonable discipline, including suspension from
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Article 8, Section 4
employment, up to and including thirty (30) days, but short of discharge,
and such employees shall not be entitled to or have any
recourse to the grievance procedure. In addition, it is agreed
between the parties that if any employee repeats any such unauthorized
strike, etc., in violation of this Agreement, during the term of
this Agreement, the Employer shall have the right to further discipline
or discharge such employee without recourse for such repetition.
After the first twenty-four (24) - hour period of an unauthorized
stoppage in violation of this Agreement, and if such stoppage
continues, the Employer shall have the sole and complete right to
immediately further discipline or discharge any employee participating
in any unauthorized strike, slowdown, walkout, or any other
cessation of work in violation of this Agreement, and such employees
shall not be entitled to or have any recourse to the grievance procedure.
The suspension or discharge herein referred to shall be uniformly
applied to all employees participating in such unauthorized
activity.
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To me that language says that they can be fired, without recourse, for a slowdown that occurs after the first 24 hours of an unauthorized strike or work stoppage. There was no strike or unauthorized work stoppage to my knowledge. This language doesn't apply as far as I can see. Isn't this about a supposed work slowdown?
 
That language is taken out of context and the previous four paragraphs seem to have been omitted. I can't believe Jay C would commit such an act! Get your contract out and read Article 8 Section 4. In advance please understand the difference between slow-down and stoppage.
 
ABFer said:
That language is taken out of context and the previous four paragraphs seem to have been omitted. I can't believe Jay C would commit such an act! Get your contract out and read Article 8 Section 4. In advance please understand the difference between slow-down and stoppage.
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OK, so I dug out the contract, and yes there's a lot of mumbo jumbo as usual. What I got out of it was, if the co. felt there was a work slowdown they were required to fax or wire the Freight Coordinator in the appropriate Regional Area (the Union) and the Chaiman of TNFINC immediately to determine if the slowdown was authorized.
If not authorized it was then the responsibility of the Local Union to make every effort to persuade the employees to commence the full performance of their duties.
If these steps were not taken then the entire handling of this situation has been outside the guidelines of the contract. Of course these days only one party to this contract is held to the specifics of the contract.
 
I'm guessing it continued across a couple of days, with the BA being notified before hand. But I do not have any first hand knowledge of the situation, I'm only going by the fact the joint committee would not hear the case citing they were not certain it was a valid grievance. I don't see anything else that would apply.
 
The grievance procedure says that grievances on the Master (front part) of the contract would first be presented to the Regional Committee then forwarded to the National Committee for hearing. So far it sounds like that is what has happened.
 
There is a big chance.that they will be working tomorrow.happens all the time at 511.there's no difference.for punishment.the company reroutes freight around the affected terminal.which in turns hurts everyone else.so I don't see any difference in this case to what goes on at 511.
 
I predict that a couple will go back to work so the company can let the onion save face and say they were able to save a couple men's livelihoods.
Lots of back scratching goes on at these hearing behind closed doors. After the decisions they all go out for drinks and a 5 star dinner. There should be no fraternizing whatsoever between these to groups, total conflict of interest.
 
My opinion Company and Local will make a back room deal :ShakeHandsNah:Cost workers grev or work rules (NO, company or Local dont care about their livelhood) NO BACK PAY (Just be glad you have a Job:kicking:) Local will tell workers "We saved your job we are there for you":notworthy:, company will say "See what happened to them that will happen to you next time :fingure:and you might not get your job back"
Everyone happy:bgroovy:
 
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