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Cando :1036316054:

The Dems have been in power for almost a year and the only thing they passed is a minimum wage law that only helped to get more first time workers unemployed.
The Dems are incapable of anything constructive because of the hate they have for Bush 43.
In a way that is good for the sake of our economy. The less they accomplish the better for the rest of the country.
With an 11% favorable rating they are even making Bush look good.
If you think that we need to spend 2.3 trillion dollars a year to run this country you are sorely mistaken.

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Put up or shut up. It's a well worn fabrication of the regressive right that raising the min. wage leads to higher unemployment. The more wages put into the economy the better. Seems the hot shot corporate hochos take care of themselves quite nicely. How's about sharing some of that dough with those who produced it, because it didn't appear out of the thin blue on it's own. And no, before you say it, they don't produce/provide jobs. They look for opportunities to "capitalize" on and make money off of your and my labor. Demand in the marketplace is what drives employment. Living wages is the best way to boost demand. Capitalists are merely parasites on the organism. If left to their own aims, they will destroy the host(see outsourcing). FDR saved capitalism from itself. But all we hear about is "that's socialism". I forget who once said it, but it goes that "it takes a little socialism to make capitalism work". OK, you can go out and play now, River17. It's recess time!:hide:
 
So what can be expected of them when the pResident finally found his veto pen after six years? 11% Congressional approval rating tells me the country wants them to put impeachment on the table. Actually, when you break down the party favor numbers, the D's are handing the R's their arses. R's worried about immigration is just a wedge issue they feed you folks because they know it will stoke the racists among you. It's why they pulled the Southern Strategy in Nixon's era. You folks are like a dog chasing it's tail. We all know your big business buds just love those cheap labor brown skinned folks. So why are you finally worried about it now after the damage has already been done? For votes perhaps? Got to energize the base somehow, right? Just find someone or something to HATE, like you always do.

My business buds always sign my pay checks,I have never had one from uncle sam .
Notice the deflection tactics of the Dems here, throw out the race card.Its the democrats who want to keep the colored folks on welfare. Show how the republicans (few as there are) in congress can stop the Dems. Tell how the republicans hate, and ignore their hatred for republicans, and the dems love to hate Bush. I think you have to be a hypocrite to be a democrat. Let me change that to a dumbocrat there are an abundance of dumbocrats in this country lots of damocrats (mostly politians) and very few, if any, true democrats. Maybe we do need a third party. I am Republican because I can't stand the two faced democrat party.
 
My business buds always sign my pay checks,I have never had one from uncle sam .
Notice the deflection tactics of the Dems here, throw out the race card.Its the democrats who want to keep the colored folks on welfare. Show how the republicans (few as there are) in congress can stop the Dems. Tell how the republicans hate, and ignore their hatred for republicans, and the dems love to hate Bush. I think you have to be a hypocrite to be a democrat. Let me change that to a dumbocrat there are an abundance of dumbocrats in this country lots of damocrats (mostly politians) and very few, if any, true democrats. Maybe we do need a third party. I am Republican because I can't stand the two faced democrat party.
LOL! Half of your post is about hating Dems.......how soon some of us seem to forget all the slams against Clinton.....oh, I forgot....Rush said it was ok then....but it's not ok to question the Repubs now.....I think I get the picture now. What a joke.
 
I don't hate dems just their politics and way they want to socialize America. Remember, you don't get something for nothing. Somebody has to pay for all the hand outs the dems want to give. And that someone will be you as long as you have a job.
 
I don't hate dems just their politics and way they want to socialize America. Remember, you don't get something for nothing. Somebody has to pay for all the hand outs the dems want to give. And that someone will be you as long as you have a job.
You are correct in much of what you say. However, it's much more complicated than that. That just sounds like a talking point you can hear on the Right radio shows all day long. Bush gives the money to war machine corporations who sometimes seem to not be able to account for it.....I think I'd rather see it go for something over here as opposed to the billions being lost and wasted in Iraq/Afghanistan.
 
You are correct in much of what you say. However, it's much more complicated than that. That just sounds like a talking point you can hear on the Right radio shows all day long. Bush gives the money to war machine corporations who sometimes seem to not be able to account for it.....I think I'd rather see it go for something over here as opposed to the billions being lost and wasted in Iraq/Afghanistan.

stldude44, you may be expecting too much from these folks on the regressive right. They don't do "complicated" very well. Their political knowledge doesn't get much deeper than a bumper sticker slogan. I've heard estimates of $9 Billion dollars going unaccounted for in Iraq. Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if that money were to go to some undeserving schmucks here in the states? But not a peep out of them on this.
 
Ron Paul 2008

I'm with Ron Paul on his opposition to these foreign boondoggles, but beyond that his political views are just down right anarchist. He's really a hardcore Libertarian. No government would work just fine with those folks, which is what leads to anarchy. Go to his site and dig deeper on his views.
 
My business buds always sign my pay checks,I have never had one from uncle sam .
Notice the deflection tactics of the Dems here, throw out the race card.Its the democrats who want to keep the colored folks on welfare. Show how the republicans (few as there are) in congress can stop the Dems. Tell how the republicans hate, and ignore their hatred for republicans, and the dems love to hate Bush. I think you have to be a hypocrite to be a democrat. Let me change that to a dumbocrat there are an abundance of dumbocrats in this country lots of damocrats (mostly politians) and very few, if any, true democrats. Maybe we do need a third party. I am Republican because I can't stand the two faced democrat party.

Ajorg, I don't hate Republicans. I just don't want them anywhere near the controls of government. They've proven time and again throughout the past 150 years they are incapable of tending to the needs of the populace at large. They have a narrow constituency that they tend to favor and to heck with the rest of us. And also, I didn't deflect anything. I answered your comment on what the D's have done and then went on to something else. Deflection would be not responding to your main point by changing the subject. Oh, and I must admit to cashing a few checks from Uncle Sam in my past. US Navy - 1983-1987.
 
stldude44, you may be expecting too much from these folks on the regressive right. They don't do "complicated" very well. Their political knowledge doesn't get much deeper than a bumper sticker slogan. I've heard estimates of $9 Billion dollars going unaccounted for in Iraq. Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if that money were to go to some undeserving schmucks here in the states? But not a peep out of them on this.

Lets uncomplicate this for me. Why have the dems who could stop this war, not voted to end funding for it???
Cando, thanks for your years of service in the navy. It's because of you and all the others who have served that we can have these discussions. God Bless America.
As for all the money lost in this war, I would also much rather see it go for some good use here at home.
 
I've heard estimates of $9 Billion dollars going unaccounted for in Iraq. Can you imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if that money were to go to some undeserving schmucks here in the states? But not a peep out of them on this.
I know. I started a thread about this in the Politics Forum and it was pretty much passed over by the Righties as just something that has happened in every war. It's amazing how they can overlook their own faults while nitpicking the other side's to death.
 
Lets uncomplicate this for me. Why have the dems who could stop this war, not voted to end funding for it???
Cando, thanks for your years of service in the navy. It's because of you and all the others who have served that we can have these discussions. God Bless America.
As for all the money lost in this war, I would also much rather see it go for some good use here at home.

You have no idea the extreme frustration I have with the leadership of my party. You are correct that they could stop this occupation tomorrow by telling the President he doesn't get one more dime in new funding, and that he best use what he has for winding this thing down and bringing them home safely. Quite simply, they are afraid of being painted as anti-troops by the banshees on the right, who seem to have extraordinary access in the major media whenever something worries their little hearts. I'm sick to death of their triangulating and would love for them to fight the fight and stand up and speak with force that they are all for the safety of our troops. De-funding an illegal occupation is far from actually de-funding the military overall, which is what those on the right like to infer. Thank you for your kind words on serving. I say God Bless Everyone, it doesn't just have to be about America all the time. It seems we've become all too full of ourselves and the rest of the world probably is tired of it also. Peace to you, my fellow human.
 


Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many 'friends' of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a *******.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed *******.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a 'Dear friend and trusted advisor'.

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a *******. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.



9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot *******. It was reported that he had a 'Black Book' of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas



10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging *******. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.



11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a ******* even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.



12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the ******* ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a ******* at the grave site of his fiance.



13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.



14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.



15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a *******. Was pregnant at the time of her death.



16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.



17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.



18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 'October Surprise' was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.



19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.



20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.



21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.



22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.



23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.



24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his < STRONG> re pair shop . He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.



25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported ******* and his report was never released.



26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.



27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as 'The boys on the track' case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.



29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988



30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.



31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.



33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to 'natural causes'.



34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.



35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-S gt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan
 
Just watch out for the black helicopters ....
Yea the same ones that were at Snopes.
(Clinton supporters)
 


Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many 'friends' of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a *******.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed *******.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a 'Dear friend and trusted advisor'.

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a *******. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock . Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.



9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot *******. It was reported that he had a 'Black Book' of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas



10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging *******. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.



11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a ******* even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.



12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the ******* ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a ******* at the grave site of his fiance.



13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.



14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.



15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a *******. Was pregnant at the time of her death.



16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.



17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.



18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 'October Surprise' was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.



19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.



20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.



21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.



22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.



23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.



24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his < STRONG> re pair shop . He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.



25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported ******* and his report was never released.



26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.



27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as 'The boys on the track' case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.



29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988



30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.



31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.



33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to 'natural causes'.



34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.



35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-S gt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

47 sheer coicidences :hide:
Now if it were 48 that might raise a few eyebrows.:hide:
 
You know what, I just realized I may be implicated in the untimely deaths of three of my fellow drivers who were in their mid forties over the past few years. Oh my God! I'm a serial killer! They were all fairly good friends of mine. I may just have to leave the country now. One must be very careful with whom he associates with.
 
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