Think you're right BF. Huge debt, equipment getting older by the day, they've sold off just about anything of value. Even if they ever do get to profitability, FedEx and UPSFreight can turn up the screws on them anytime they want by taking losses on freight subsidized by profits on package. Who knows now, it might have worked out a little better if Yellow had bought just Roadway, although I have my doubts, but buying Holland especiallly for more money than they paid for Roadway, New Penn, Reimer combined, was the fatal blunder. Not that Holland is a bad company, just that the price tag was too high and Yellow had already assumed way too much debt. I had 35yrs. at Roadway, linehaul driver, retired in 2010. I really never knew how good Roadway was until Yellow came along.