ok....an accident happen...someone got hurt...is there something more to the thread. I don't dwell on accidents people have because I know that the driver is in his own personal thought track of what ese could he or she have done. I don't anylize....and I don't ask someone about incidents they do have. I let the person involved have their personal space because we are the toughest judges of ourselves. nobody scrutinizes me more thouroughly than me....if i screw up I know and admit it. sad that it happened.