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Freightmaster1 said:

Yellow terminals’ dispersal means LTL sector ‘becoming even more consolidated’

The reshuffling of assets and capacity within the $58 billion less-than-truckload (LTL) sector has begun. The bankruptcy of Yellow Corp has made one thing clear: shippers ought to be prepared to pay higher rates, perhaps 6-to-8% higher in contractual renewals.
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Wow.....deregulating and getting rid of unions really really really helps out the consumer!!!!!!


Only consumers of controlling share stocks.

I guess they duped you guys on this..... again.

Compete Boy!!!!
Compete!!!!!!!!
 
Razorblade said:
Competition always lowers costs and increases quality.
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Lowered it none.
Knocked out the last big union carrier....and it's saying to prepare for 6-8% increased in shipping price.

The mire it's consolidated as they've been saying....there will be no price lowering benefit for the consumer.
They will set the prices however they see fit....and they'll all play the game.

....but they got rid of the union so that means less threat to profits for the shareholder class across the industry.

They won't pass on any savings.
Just screw all who work the industry.
 
slavenomore said:
Lowered it none.
Knocked out the last big union carrier....and it's saying to prepare for 6-8% increased in shipping price.

The mire it's consolidated as they've been saying....there will be no price lowering benefit for the consumer.
They will set the prices however they see fit....and they'll all play the game.

....but they got rid of the union so that means less threat to profits for the shareholder class across the industry.

They won't pass on any savings.
Just screw all who work the industry.
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Rates are still undervalued. companies like Yellow kept rates artificially low.
Rates will settle in where they create profits.
having one carriers propped up by $700 MILLLION of taxpayer funds created an unfair competitive landscape
New carriers can always start up and grow into major carriers as Saia is doing.
Without the federal government's crony capitalism...
 
Puff Driver said:
Rates are still undervalued. companies like Yellow kept rates artificially low.
Rates will settle in where they create profits.
having one carriers propped up by $700 MILLLION of taxpayer funds created an unfair competitive landscape
New carriers can always start up and grow into major carriers as Saia is doing.
Without the federal government's crony capitalism...
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Going from regulated to deregulated propped up all the nonunion carriers .
 
Yea nice job non razor & puff, you happy now? Country is in Awlful shape already and you make things worse, then brag about it! What losers
 
Puff Driver said:
Only because the non union carriers evolved with the new era.
Union carriers continued on as if nothing happened.
And nothing happened for them... So they died off one at a time...
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Perhaps the new era was the wrong path to take.
I tend to think so.
Just pushed more cost out of the market onto the tax payer.
That's called forced taxation to cover what the greedy bastard investors want to shove off onto government.
Great benefits covered by the market freely by those who use the service....pensions...health insurance, living wages, work rules.

Look at the cost which has been transfered from the market to the tax payer.
Look at the cost of the DOT and the laws and rules and enforcement and court costs.
Look at the cost to imposition of a mire national health insurance.
Look at the cost to retirees and the taxpayer bailing out their failed policy destroying great pensions.

You must look thru the thick smoke to see clearly.
It's not as "free market" as it appears.
It appears to me taking down unions puts us miles ahead moving toward communism and tyranicaly taxation rather than away from it.
 
slavenomore said:
Lowered it none.
Knocked out the last big union carrier....and it's saying to prepare for 6-8% increased in shipping price.

The mire it's consolidated as they've been saying....there will be no price lowering benefit for the consumer.
They will set the prices however they see fit....and they'll all play the game.

....but they got rid of the union so that means less threat to profits for the shareholder class across the industry.

They won't pass on any savings.
Just screw all who work the industry.
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Wow, you really should consider moving to a socialist country where the government sets all the prices and decides who can open a store.
Did you ever buy a car in the 70s? The rust buckets and mechanically defective ones built by the big 3 and only lasted long enough, about 3 years, to pay off the loan. It was called planned obsolescence. Only after the Asian cars coming to America were the big 3 forced to build better and price competitively. They even had to offer rebates to sell their junk.
The free market works in favor of the consumer every time.
 
Razorblade said:
Wow, you really should consider moving to a socialist country where the government sets all the prices and decides who can open a store.
Did you ever buy a car in the 70s? The rust buckets and mechanically defective ones built by the big 3 and only lasted long enough, about 3 years, to pay off the loan. It was called planned obsolescence. Only after the Asian cars coming to America were the big 3 forced to build better and price competitively. They even had to offer rebates to sell their junk.
The free market works in favor of the consumer every time.
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To those who favor going back to freight "regulation" I'll pose this question. If government told you that depending on where you live, you could only buy one particular brand of car or truck, would you be OK with that? That's sort of what regulated trucking was like. Isn't freedom to choose what we're about? :idunno:
 
Razorblade said:
Wow, you really should consider moving to a socialist country where the government sets all the prices and decides who can open a store.
Did you ever buy a car in the 70s? The rust buckets and mechanically defective ones built by the big 3 and only lasted long enough, about 3 years, to pay off the loan. It was called planned obsolescence. Only after the Asian cars coming to America were the big 3 forced to build better and price competitively. They even had to offer rebates to sell their junk.
The free market works in favor of the consumer every time.
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You're path leads to the government pricing healthcare, retirement, living wages and rent/home costs in the end....because in the end your investor class wants to shove them all off onto government, so that they are the only part of a business which can profit.
They want nothing to do with those costs....and without a political force such as unions, preventing them from doing so.....it will happen faster and faster as our numbers decrease.
Businessmen don't live in the now....they think decades ahead.... It is you who helps the communists.
Communists are ruled by very profitable capitalists.
 
slavenomore said:
You're path leads to the government pricing healthcare, retirement, living wages and rent/home costs in the end....because in the end your investor class wants to shove them all off onto government, so that they are the only part of a business which can profit.
They want nothing to do with those costs....and without a political force such as unions, preventing them from doing so.....it will happen faster and faster as our numbers decrease.
Businessmen don't live in the now....they think decades ahead.... It is you who helps the communists.
Communists are ruled by very profitable capitalists.
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You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to call a national healthcare system communist but a government controlled trucking industry isn't.
BTW: the insurance industry adds 30% to the cost of healthcare but provides no healthcare. A national healthcare system eliminates the entire for profit insurance industry. How is that good for investors?
Can you even define the investor class?
 
Razorblade said:
You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to call a national healthcare system communist but a government controlled trucking industry isn't.
BTW: the insurance industry adds 30% to the cost of healthcare but provides no healthcare. A national healthcare system eliminates the entire for profit insurance industry. How is that good for investors?
Can you even define the investor class?
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Who controls the industry?
The DOT.....

In case you didn't know.....that's government.

And who does the groundwork for what DOT writes into regulation?

The ATA.

....knocking out any competition who doesn't go by their rules. Or who can't afford the standards that they set with all their big bucks.


It's still regulated.

They only wanted the workers voice taken out of the regulating process.
 
Razorblade said:
You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to call a national healthcare system communist but a government controlled trucking industry isn't.
BTW: the insurance industry adds 30% to the cost of healthcare but provides no healthcare. A national healthcare system eliminates the entire for profit insurance industry. How is that good for investors?
Can you even define the investor class?
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Like I said before, perhaps you should invest in the insurance industry....doesn't government pretty much control everything?
 
slavenomore said:
Who controls the industry?
The DOT.....

In case you didn't know.....that's government.

And who does the groundwork for what DOT writes into regulation?

The ATA.

....knocking out any competition who doesn't go by their rules. Or who can't afford the standards that they set with all their big bucks.


It's still regulated.

They only wanted the workers voice taken out of the regulating process.
[/QUOTE/ You're reaching. The DOT doesn't control pricing or service areas. The DOT rules cover hour of service, hazmat and other safety related issues. Getting a DOT number on the side of a truck is as simple as filling out the form. Ask any tow truck owner. I guess you would do away with the entire Department of Transportation and while you're at it, shut down OSHA.
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