Does it cause conflict in the union shops that have that? At XPO, coworkers don't have a say. In union shops, it was the coworkers that voted for it. I'd think that would cause more issues.Yup, that won't cause conflict in the future amongst employees.
Should we just ignore the fact that the greedy union stole our pension? That would certainly help your narrative.You should really monitor better. Because that's what I've been say's since i started posting. But you company (ani-union) people keep bring it up. It's like that's the only thing you guy's talk about. Union pension this union pension was stolen union pension that.
Can you explain exactly how the union stole your pension ? Please in detail because I'm trying to understand where your coming from. I take it if you mean union your talking about the leadership? Please don't take this wrong it not a loaded question.Should we just ignore the fact that the greedy union stole our pension? That would certainly help your narrative.
Why do I have a feeling you won't answer......
How did feel Con-way freezing ours ? Do you think they were being greedy to do that?Should we just ignore the fact that the greedy union stole our pension? That would certainly help your narrative.
Why do I have a feeling you won't answer......
Teamsters top level corruption was so bad in the 70s the government had to take control of the pension. Google teamsters corruption and read away.Can you explain exactly how the union stole your pension ? Please in detail because I'm trying to understand where your coming from. I take it if you mean union your talking about the leadership? Please don't take this wrong it not a loaded question.
Yes they were greedy. Just like the union. Yet, you only seemed concerned with holding one party accountable.How did feel Con-way freezing ours ? Do you think they were being greedy to do that?
It's not as greedy as stealing something that was promised to hard working people.How about a growing profitable company that only offers its new employees a sub standard measly 401 k match ? Is that greedy?
I'm sorry but I missed your question in there.It's not as greedy as stealing something that was promised to hard working people.
I've answered your questions. I'm betting money I won't get the same courtesy.
i monitor just fine, thanks. You said fed ex is the only company that offers a good pension. That's what my comment was directed at. We lost the exact same things pension wise that you did. We did not loose our vacation like you did. I'm not sure what 3rd party representation you think we have?You should really monitor better. Because that's what I've been say's since i started posting. But you company (ani-union) people keep bring it up. It's like that's the only thing you guy's talk about. Union pension this union pension was stolen union pension that.
I've said and ill say it again. Having some kind of representation might help us get a better 401.
By the way. I think you said .You guy's in Canada didn't loose ypur pension. So you guy's don't have to worry about. Specially since you guy's have a 3rd party representation.
I respect that. it's a honest answer.For the record, I'm not anti union. I'm anti teamsters.
How can you say the actions of the past don't have anything to do with the Teamsters of today, when that's the exact logic you use on Jacobs? Corruption is alive and well in the teamsters right now. What's to prevent them from stealing again?I'm sorry but I missed your question in there.
I have already acknowledged corruption in the teamsters in the past. There current pension problems that exist in some regions is not related to stuff that happened back in the 70's. I wholly agree with you if someone is not getting the promised pension or only part of it I think that's horrible. I was promised a good pension here if I kept my nose clean and stayed out of trouble but it was pulled and to make it worse it was fully funded. I know that hurt.
Arguing over a multi employer pension fund is really a mute point since its highly unlikely anyone is going to enter one of those . Which leaves us corruption and I think holding the Teamsters's out alone on that is a little skewed seeing that our own Jacobs got caught doing that same thing. Where's there's money there's always going to be the unacceptable. We have to be guarded against it.
Also is it that your opposed to unions in general or is it solely the Teamsters's due to your past experience? There's a big difference.
In case you missed it, I've answered every question asked to me. Sucker "missed"/danced around mine and Sit4afuture has simply ignored mine. In his defense, he has attacked my character since he's unable to answer the questions.I said you dance around the answer, you usually answer by saying answer my question first or something completely off topic
And when the government took the pension over it was still fully funded (just not over funded) when the fund became over funded again the government made the fund give every retiree a raise. Under government foresight the fund managers have managed to break it all while collecting fat salaries and bonuses.Teamsters top level corruption was so bad in the 70s the government had to take control of the pension. Google teamsters corruption and read away.
Look at that. He asked a question, and I answered it. Hopefully some of the union guys will start answering my questions. Sadly, we know they won't.
I didn't miss anything, you couldn't give a direct answer if you wanted to, as far as him attacking your character you need to grow thicker skin.In case you missed it, I've answered every question asked to me. Sucker "missed"/danced around mine and Sit4afuture has simply ignored mine. In his defense, he has attacked my character since he's unable to answer the questions.
Had the teamsters not stole it, it wouldn't have been under government control. But that's none of my business.And when the government took the pension over it was still fully funded (just not over funded) when the fund became over funded again the government made the fund give every retiree a raise. Under government foresight the fund managers have managed to break it all while collecting fat salaries and bonuses.
You mean like "buster"whip and "buster"Gene?
Hahaha. That's funny. I'm a union recruiter. I'm going to do this for 5 year's then i'm going to turn around and become a union buster. It's easier to bribe people then to wake them up.. Hahaha
Yet I've given direct answers and many still aren't happy. Instead of me getting thicker skin, he could be a grown up and discuss the topic instead of attacking me. I guess that's too much to ask? If he represents how the union works, count me out.I didn't miss anything, you couldn't give a direct answer if you wanted to, as far as him attacking your character you need to grow thicker skin.