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While I don't feel sorry for this guy having to go hook his own set, if it's covered under their contract and someone else is supposed to be hooking that set, then that's the rules. And if management violates the rules that the company agreed to in the contract, then why feel sorry for the company? They're the ones who agreed to the contract. If they want to waste money, that's their problem. If I were the guy in question, I wouldn't feel guilty. I'd be following the rules set forth in the contract. Just like I try my best to follow the constantly changing rules here. If I can ever figure out what the rule actually is and who's enforcing it and who it applies to, that is...
 
slim66 said:
How would YRC going out be bad? The excess capacity would be used up and the remaining carriers would be able to jack the rates up.
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I'm with you slim, I wouldn't shed a tear if YRC went out. That freight would still have to be hauled by someone, and I'm sure we'd get some of it. We'd be busier, giving the employees more hours and the company to operate at a greater profit level. With a tighter capacity freight rates would have to go up (supply vs demand) and we'd all win. I'd hate to see YRC guys lose their jobs, but with tighter capacity, I'm sure they'd be able to find a job somewhere else. And if I were a union shop employee, I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in the Teamster's pension basket anyway. I'd be putting some away for myself.
 
But it would create an excess of drivers. And more competition for jobs. Giving them room to pay less and offer less benefits.


It would be great for trucking companies still in business. Bad for drivers.
 
highspeeds said:
But it would create an excess of drivers. And more competition for jobs. Giving them room to pay less and offer less benefits.


It would be great for trucking companies still in business. Bad for drivers.
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Look at all that freight that would be out there in the market that someone would have to haul. Profits would go through the roof. I doubt that any carrier, especially one like Con-way who cares so much about it's employees (see most recent video from Greg Lemkuhl "we're a company that's all about people" *GAG*) that they would cut wages and benefits when their profit margins would soar. I wasn't in the business when CF closed it's doors, but I doubt that any carriers lowered their pay or benefits when they went out of business. I don't know about you, but if Con-way (or any other carrier) tried that, I'd be down at the local teamster's hall the next day asking for them to come in and represent us. I think the threat of organization would be too great for them to screw with us that much.
 
nncnwydude said:
Look at all that freight that would be out there in the market that someone would have to haul. Profits would go through the roof. I doubt that any carrier, especially one like Con-way who cares so much about it's employees (see most recent video from Greg Lemkuhl "we're a company that's all about people" *GAG*) that they would cut wages and benefits when their profit margins would soar. I wasn't in the business when CF closed it's doors, but I doubt that any carriers lowered their pay or benefits when they went out of business. I don't know about you, but if Con-way (or any other carrier) tried that, I'd be down at the local teamster's hall the next day asking for them to come in and represent us. I think the threat of organization would be too great for them to screw with us that much.
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Profits would not soar. If YRC customers won't pay our higher rates now what makes you think most would if YRC closed its doors? Most would go with a cheaper carrier. We would get additional business but not enough to make profits soar.
 
slim66 said:
How would YRC going out be bad? The excess capacity would be used up and the remaining carriers would be able to jack the rates up.
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How about all the CDL holders that will lose their jobs? You don't think that will change what other companies consider fair compensation? All those people will need jobs, most of them are truck drivers that will be looking for truck driving jobs. When there is more talent than job openings, the average wage for that job goes down.
 
Walleye said:
If company management followed the work rules they wouldn't lose the grievances,....

Work rules are a good thing, They outline who dose what, I wont take work away from a brother, If it is his job he should be doing it and getting payed for it!!
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That's just plain old fashioned thinking. We live in fast times and employees should be crossed trained to do be able to perform multiple tasks. A manager shouldn't have to look for a specific person to do a specific job when something needs to be done.
 
nncnwydude said:
I'm with you slim, I wouldn't shed a tear if YRC went out. That freight would still have to be hauled by someone, and I'm sure we'd get some of it. We'd be busier, giving the employees more hours and the company to operate at a greater profit level. With a tighter capacity freight rates would have to go up (supply vs demand) and we'd all win. I'd hate to see YRC guys lose their jobs, but with tighter capacity, I'm sure they'd be able to find a job somewhere else. And if I were a union shop employee, I wouldn't be putting all my eggs in the Teamster's pension basket anyway. I'd be putting some away for myself.
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I would think that many of the YRC guys could find jobs with other carriers if their company went bye bye....increased demand from remaining carriers means more hiring.
 
We have work rules for many reasons.not to put it to the man.most if not all of us union members.do put in a fair days work for a fair days pay.
 
I would suggest to all that aren't organized.get organized.life is short.your time is valuable.your family is important.we all should be maximizing our earning potential.you can bet your company isn't looking after your well being and finances.workers take the back seat.stockholders are priority.
There really isn't any solid arguements on why you shouldn't belong in a union.if the Teamsters aren't your cup of tea.there are other union alternatives.why wouldn't one want better pay?or better benefits?or that you really have a voice in your workplace.I've been on both side of the fence.non union and union.I personally prefer a union.
 
bigtruk_us said:
I would suggest to all that aren't organized.get organized.life is short.your time is valuable.your family is important.we all should be maximizing our earning potential.you can bet your company isn't looking after your well being and finances.workers take the back seat.stockholders are priority.
There really isn't any solid arguements on why you shouldn't belong in a union.if the Teamsters aren't your cup of tea.there are other union alternatives.why wouldn't one want better pay?or better benefits?or that you really have a voice in your workplace.I've been on both side of the fence.non union and union.I personally prefer a union.
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Our pay is better than yours...you need to focus on maximizing your earnings, not ours. Your company is losing millions and millions of dollars every year, and your worried about our company?? Why don't you go post your crap in Old Dominion or Fedex forum, maybe they will care about what you have to say..hahahahaha
 
He doesn't know I worked at his company.I know how exactly how it goes.I prefer what I have and who I work for I never got brainwashed by conways propaganda videoes.they had to play those brainwashing videoes to protect the company.it wasn't for the workers benefit.
Hey ..if you're happy with the bs than carry on
 
bigtruk_us said:
He doesn't know I worked at his company.I know how exactly how it goes.I prefer what I have and who I work for I never got brainwashed by conways propaganda videoes.they had to play those brainwashing videoes to protect the company.it wasn't for the workers benefit.
Hey ..if you're happy with the bs than carry on
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I know you used to work here. Its an easy job to me, with good pay. And you say its b.s., well you certainly work for a model company.
 
White Shirt said:
Profits would not soar. If YRC customers won't pay our higher rates now what makes you think most would if YRC closed its doors? Most would go with a cheaper carrier. We would get additional business but not enough to make profits soar.
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It's a matter of supply and demand. I don't know the exact numbers tonnage wise that YRC carries, but if you took them completely out of the mix, capacity would tighten significantly. The freight would have to be hauled. If there are fewer carriers to haul it, and I'm pretty sure ALL LTL carriers would be significantly busier without YRC, and a better rate could be negotiated. Besides, I didn't know our rates were all that high. Lemkuhl said in his video our rates are lower than they were in '06. I don't know what YRC's rates are, but I doubt they're that much lower than us.
 
I do remember conway almost lost its core customers.when the union outfits were on strike.conway was so overwhelmed by the freight that they had scabbed.they couldn't make service and damages were sky high.damages are sky high anyway..besides the point..grinning
 
We had such a beloved CEO/President in Bill Zollars.not..he almost single handly put all of yrcw in the dirt.I guess he wanted to own the freight world..off topic..
 
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