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yrc-atm said:
Going to the doctor everytime you have a sniffle or a sore foot.
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That's a two edged sword. I mean I understand those who abuse or have some sort of "mental health" problem wanting to see a Dr. every day. But I also know of parents who were at the Dr's once a week with their child until they finally got someone on the Staff to do blood work and low & behold they find a major problem.
I guess my real bitch about this is that some Government burauocrat get to judge (By making up the rules) who is sick and who's not.
That's not American!
 
LEHIGH vALLEY said:
I guess my real bitch about this is that some Government burauocrat get to judge (By making up the rules) who is sick and who's not.
That's not American!
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Which would you rather have? A Government bureaucrat or an insurance company bureaucrat? Those are your two choices. You can vote a government bureaucrat out of office. You try to picket an insurance bureaucrat you will go to jail. One choice is American the other is totalitarian.
 
Slim_ said:
Which would you rather have? A Government bureaucrat or an insurance company bureaucrat? Those are your two choices. You can vote a government bureaucrat out of office. You try to picket an insurance bureaucrat you will go to jail. One choice is American the other is totalitarian.
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I would rather have an Insurance bureaucrat for the simple reason that it was never the intention of the framers of the Consitution for Government to be part of it!
Remember what happens every time the Fed gets involved with something that used to be privite sector. IT COSTS MORE! And you end up with less freedom!
Government is NOT the answer to everything! Ask how that concept worked out in Europe.
 
Slim_ said:
Which would you rather have? A Government bureaucrat or an insurance company bureaucrat? Those are your two choices. You can vote a government bureaucrat out of office. You try to picket an insurance bureaucrat you will go to jail. One choice is American the other is totalitarian.
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Unfortunately you're gonna get the same result with either... The next government beurocrat is going to do whatever they want as well... To coin a phrase, "you can't fight city hall..."
 
LEHIGH vALLEY said:
I would rather have an Insurance bureaucrat for the simple reason that it was never the intention of the framers of the Consitution for Government to be part of it!
Remember what happens every time the Fed gets involved with something that used to be privite sector. IT COSTS MORE! And you end up with less freedom!
Government is NOT the answer to everything! Ask how that concept worked out in Europe.
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It worked out great in Europe. That Volvo truck you're driving was built by a Swedish company. The cell phone your reading this on uses technology from a German company -- the low-tech parts came from China, the high-tech parts from Germany. Both the Swedish and German working class have a higher standard of living than the U.S. working class. The CEOs make far less then comparable U.S. CEOs. There is no lack of freedom there. More vacation, higher pay, "free" health care, solvent pensions.

Use up some of what's left of the vacation the YRC bureaucrats have left for you and visit Europe. I think you'll be surprised at what you see.

Reread my post. I didn't say anywhere that Government is the answer to everything.

Which is cheaper your phone bill or your cable bill? One of those is regulated by government; the other is regulated by corporate bureaucrats who own private-sector monopolies. Which is cheaper UPS or USPS? Depends somewhat on the service your buying. But there are some parts of country where no private-sector carrier can touch USPS prices. In fact, UPS sued USPS to make them stop advertising USPS's cheaper than private sector services. When you reach 65 your medical bills become very cheap -- thank your government medicare bureaucrat for that.

The Framers of the Constitution had no concept of modern medicine. However, Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution: “The Congress shall have the Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States."

Very surprising that a good American such as yourself would choose Corporate totalitarianism over good-old American democracy, and three other people agreed. Amazing. The degree of anti-Americanism in the right-wing is ... well, I feel sorry that you feel that way about your own government.

I assume you listen to a lot of talk radio. Me too. Well, I used to. Not so much anymore. But give Thom Hartman a listen. He has had Junior Hoffa on a couple of times. But actually, that's probably a reason not to listen. Junior Hoffa is an embarrassment of a leader.
 
Slim_ said:
It worked out great in Europe. That Volvo truck you're driving was built by a Swedish company. The cell phone your reading this on uses technology from a German company -- the low-tech parts came from China, the high-tech parts from Germany. Both the Swedish and German working class have a higher standard of living than the U.S. working class. The CEOs make far less then comparable U.S. CEOs. There is no lack of freedom there. More vacation, higher pay, "free" health care, solvent pensions.

Use up some of what's left of the vacation the YRC bureaucrats have left for you and visit Europe. I think you'll be surprised at what you see.

Reread my post. I didn't say anywhere that Government is the answer to everything.

Which is cheaper your phone bill or your cable bill? One of those is regulated by government; the other is regulated by corporate bureaucrats who own private-sector monopolies. Which is cheaper UPS or USPS? Depends somewhat on the service your buying. But there are some parts of country where no private-sector carrier can touch USPS prices. In fact, UPS sued USPS to make them stop advertising USPS's cheaper than private sector services. When you reach 65 your medical bills become very cheap -- thank your government medicare bureaucrat for that.

The Framers of the Constitution had no concept of modern medicine. However, Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution: “The Congress shall have the Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and GENERAL WELFARE of the United States."

Very surprising that a good American such as yourself would choose Corporate totalitarianism over good-old American democracy, and three other people agreed. Amazing. The degree of anti-Americanism in the right-wing is ... well, I feel sorry that you feel that way about your own government.

I assume you listen to a lot of talk radio. Me too. Well, I used to. Not so much anymore. But give Thom Hartman a listen. He has had Junior Hoffa on a couple of times. But actually, that's probably a reason not to listen. Junior Hoffa is an embarrassment of a leader.
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Oh where to start!?
First I guess I better clear the air and tell you that while I'm not a big fan of "Talk Radio" I do read a lot. Talk Radio has it's good points and bad but like the left it has it's (Or their) own agenda that I do not support 100%. So please don't try to lump me in with the lefts ideal of a right wing, Rush Limbaugh listening, Gun tot'in, Bible thump'in fill in the blank. There are those of us who have our own point of view and got it without help from the media, NRA, John Burch, ACLU, Common Cause or any other hard core group, Left or right!
Article 1. Section 8. General welfare of the United States. We have common ground that the framers had no ideal of modern medicine, That's not my point. My issue is with those who think any Government (Fed, State, Or local) has the right or power to take over and control anything the Constitution did not EXPRESSLY give it. Pass laws to protect the Citizens from Corprate greed? Ok Yes. Take over something that has never been part of the Federal Governments mandate as framed in the Consitution? NEVER!
Please look at most if not all of the social programs that Washington has it's hands in and how screwed up they are! (Some worst than others to be sure) My major problem is good intentions aside, The Federal Government screws up most things they get their claws in.
Opposing Goverment control does not mean support of Corporate totalitarinism! Both sides, Left AND right, Take their views and opinions to far so that both sides try to make the others point of view look anti American! I for one do not think every ideal or point of view from the left is bad. But as I have said before, There is no more middle ground in American politics. Hence all the fighting.

More to follow, Gotta go to work.
 
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