I don't want the shoe to be on either foot. I would like to see everyone back to work, I was hoping to retire from this once fine company, but we all know the outlook on that. That is a whole different thread. I was just amazed that how quickly city men are now looking for sympathy now, when a month ago, they had the "oh, well" attitude. It is slow everywhere in our system, and I don't think anyone has access to all the numbers to establish which lay-offs are to be credited to the UE and which are because of the worlds economy going into the crapper, and of course let's not forget the ones due to the fact that YRC corporate sales tie our salespeoples hands behind their back when it comes to competitive pricing and changes or service standards and next day lanes. We have places that were next day before that are now two day, but drivers still run the lane as if it was next day, then the freight sits in the yard because it is "tomorrows freight". All I know is that every night I pull out on my bid run with hardly anything in the trailer that is for the destination terminal and alot of other drivers in our barn are the same way. I won't talk bill count because specifics don't matter, all that matters is that we are all seeing far less freight these days.