It doesn't but it means there is something there for the taking. Your labor is only worth more when you create leverage. Collective bargaining creates leverage. Those who don't bargain collectively in this industry have very little leverage. Leverage is the only thing that matters.
Yellow | How Unions Have Betrayed America
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There sure would be slave labor if the corporations were to get want they want and one would either have to be plain naïve or a brainwashed corporate idolater such as yourself.
As for the non union drivers begging for representation... that won't happen for a couple of years after seeing your wish come true.
Except for the last 30 years under the consent decree of the government weeding out the corruption. Even though the stereotype is still alive and well, we have an IBT with very little corruption that is weak instead of a union that was strong with more corruption. I know who would get my vote. Bring back the mob.
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Did Yellow Road Drivers earn overtime after 40 hours?Lets see....labor unions aren't needed in trucking....nothing to protect you from 70 hours a week......no overtime since you are exempt from FLSA.....look at truckload and I guarantee that without unions LTL will look the same within 20 years of unions being gone.....We do have sweatshops...it is called truckload...
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Drug dealing, murder, corruption, embezzlement, violence, theft and intimidation work for you?
Unless it is your child getting beaten to death, right...
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Most industries are non union, they do very, very well with well paid employees.
At least Yellow Road Drivers do not have to work the dock.
You & your union won... You should be happy Sean O'Brien did what you wanted.
So my wife who works for the VA shouldn’t be entitled to a decent retirement or benefits(which she pays a portion of) for taking care of our veterans? The federal government has no problem handing money to other countries while our vets a living in cardboard boxes….Nobody works for free both private sector or State/Federal deserve a decent living….
Didn't mind the intimidation part. They were useful to Teamster drivers from an enforcement aspect. Out of sight, out of mind when you are very well paid. The Paul Ryans and Scott Walkers of the day weren't quite so brave and kept their mouths shut. The union busting industry barely existed. The US government did more damage to the Central States Pension Fund in the mid 00s than the mob ever did.
And why do you suppose that is?
At least you appreciate that.
No... you should be happy that O'Brien is in there now instead of the ever "adapting" Junior because he was on his way to eventually "adapting" the union's great wages... benefits and working conditions out of existence which in turn would have eventually impacted the "well paid" non union employees as well.
Sounds like you have a problem with the inner workings of your government... don't worry... you're not alone.
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I never said any of that. We will agree that government spending is out of control. Less than 10% of the private sector is unionized. To claim that only unions provide a living wage is ludicrous.
Sounds like your against unions in the public sector?
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How many times do I have write that socialist unions are the balance to corporate capitalism. It's the unions that forced law makers to establish 40 hour work weeks. OSHA and the NLRB are products of the labor movement. Prohibitions against child labor and paid time off are products of the labor movement. The focus now should be on a national healthcare system that guarantees quality care to every American not just those with great insurance. The more successful the unions are at real change, the less relevant they become. The problem is that unions, like the IBT, have become big business.
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Then why are non union drivers paid better and have better job security?
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Sounds like 30,000 workers out of a job is music to your ears.And why do you suppose that is?
At least you appreciate that.
No... you should be happy that O'Brien is in there now instead of the ever "adapting" Junior because he was on his way to eventually "adapting" the union's great wages... benefits and working conditions out of existence which in turn would have eventually impacted the "well paid" non union employees as well.
It makes me sick to see that but if you enjoy it that's fine with me I guess...
You convincing yourself of that doesn't make it true.
You are sick if you actually believe any Teamster likes to see any other truckers lose their job... Teamster or not!!! It's people like you who like to use a tragedy like this to spread your anti-union rhetoric. It's the sick people like you out there who will never realize that the Teamsters aren't your enemy because of your inability to see the forest for the trees.
This is my quote....I like how you took one part and made it about Yellow road drivers....
"Lets see....labor unions aren't needed in trucking....nothing to protect you from 70 hours a week......no overtime since you are exempt from FLSA.....look at truckload and I guarantee that without unions LTL will look the same within 20 years of unions being gone.....We do have sweatshops...it is called truckload..."
But since you did, the short answer is No. The better answer is did Yellow road drivers have to wait anywhere from 2 to 4 hours when stopped for detention pay like TL? Also no....did Yellow road drivers when at EOLs hook trailers and other equipment for free like TL? No. Did Yellow road drivers, if they needed to fuel the truck do it for free like TL? No. If a Yellow road driver had a bid time to start a shift and his loads aren't ready do they wait for free for hours like I did when I worked at a non union LTL? No. Do I still believe that without unions LTL will eventually look like truckload? Absolutely, Yes.
Does an expensive deduction out of your paycheck for insurance make for a better paycheck? Does an “At Will” work environment provide better job security?