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Let's see...Skyrocketing national debt, excessively high unemployment, major underemployment, service industry intstead of manufacturing industry, Do you think for one second that a board of directors when looking at there numbers and they arent making enough money, ever say's to themselves, Instead of closing down our USA plant that employ's 10,000 employees(tax base), and putting them out of work,(unemployment) and hurting them and there families, and the community, and the USA, Instead of doing that, lets keep this plant open, even though if we closed it we could make 55 million a year and our stock price would be $38.90, But if we keep this plant here we still will make 50 million a year and our stock price will be $38.00, we are still in great shape and maybe it's the right thing to do because we love our country and we are going to put americans first. I don't question whether most people love the USA, I am strarting to question whether there are a few at the top that could care less if the united states exists or not, there question is how are we going to make money off of whatever happens when the USA is gone??? Just wonder if corporations don't ever put america first, are they un-american. Because remember as Mitt R. said "corporations are people too, my friend"
Simply said: the globalist that run these multinationals have no loyalty to our great country . This is one main reason to get money out of politics because it enables corporations to interferer with whats best for the people and to favor whats best for the elite . To be politically correct I must say to keep union money out as well . Use that money to shore up the union pensions . If a person wants to run for office then they should use their own money . Some call it campaign contributions when in fact its the same as a bribe . Whats the difference, special interest buying a vote or giving a cop a 20 to get out of some traffic infraction? Both are for personal interest .
 
Corporations are learning that some of these moves across the sea.haven't been too productive.quality and using lead paint etc.mexico for example.since the so called drug kingpins have stepped up the violence.corporations in that region have learned that the US is a better place security wise.
Come on Big Truck ,do you really think CEO's give a crap about lead paint ? They want that cheap labor and the ability to exploit the employees . Nuff said!
 
Simply said: the globalist that run these multinationals have no loyalty to our great country . This is one main reason to get money out of politics because it enables corporations to interferer with whats best for the people and to favor whats best for the elite . To be politically correct I must say to keep union money out as well . Use that money to shore up the union pensions . If a person wants to run for office then they should use their own money . Some call it campaign contributions when in fact its the same as a bribe . Whats the difference, special interest buying a vote or giving a cop a 20 to get out of some traffic infraction? Both are for personal interest .
That's the key and the only way to start to fix things, take the money out of politics. If somebody wants to run for office, they should have to Qualify by collecting signitures to meet a certain threshhold, then they get "x" amount of money, public money only. Yes it would be taxpayer money, but they would all get the exact same amount, then they would answer to the voters(taxpayers). They get NO MONEY from BIG BUSINES or UNIONS or SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. Then the will of the people will start to get done and not the will of the people that have the most money, which is usually big business or the elite.:coffee1:
 
How do you know what our country's debt is?we only go by what the news tells us.I remember after sept 11,2001 our government told us that one of the goals that these terrorists had.was to bring our country down to its knees economically.don't you think that this can be done intentionally by way of disinformation and propaganda.I think some things are done intentionally to create an illusion that we are beat.as quickly as our government shut things down they can easily turn it around.
 
All I know is Cash is King and when the supreme court ruled that a corporation is exactly the same as a person, meaning they have free speech and money is considered free speech, then they can dish out cash like it's candy to the lawmakers and that is a big problem. I don't always belive what the new's media dish's out or even the goverment, I definatelly do my best to listen to both sides of the news, because that's what is on anymore is new's analysist. I'ts hard to find just straight new's without a spin on it, and then when you listen to lawmaker's you don't know if it's the money talking or they are telling us the truth. If money wasn't being used to influence our lawmakers decision making, then I think we would be better off. Cash is King and he who has the most wins, and that is fine until it corrupts the political process, then it needs to be taken out of the politics so they can make decisions without somebody saying in there ear, if you vote no, kiss this million dollars we are going to contribute to your canpaign good-by, we will give it to the other guy. washington dc, is a pay to play town and if a group of lawmaker's could stop that we be alot better off. that's my free speech....just don't have a million to dangle in front of my congressman to effect his vote. Which my first issue would be we need to think about tariff's on chinese goods coming in to america, when they signed free trade it should have been free fair trade!
 
So the tea party is no longer relevant and you jumped off the bandwagon.

No Sir, that is not what I meant to say. I'm saying the movment has went beyond it's grass roots street protests to actually getting their own people elected to public office. When OWS can do that, then perhaps I might start thinking they have a some credibility.
 
Does this mean he has also jumped off the Herman Cain bandwagon?

There is no more Cain Train, it's parked in the depot, never to come out again. Such a shame also, I really like the man and his message, he was my no.1 pick for the GOP nomination.
 
Let's see...Skyrocketing national debt, excessively high unemployment, major underemployment, service industry intstead of manufacturing industry, Do you think for one second that a board of directors when looking at there numbers and they arent making enough money, ever say's to themselves, Instead of closing down our USA plant that employ's 10,000 employees(tax base), and putting them out of work,(unemployment) and hurting them and there families, and the community, and the USA, Instead of doing that, lets keep this plant open, even though if we closed it we could make 55 million a year and our stock price would be $38.90, But if we keep this plant here we still will make 50 million a year and our stock price will be $38.00, we are still in great shape and maybe it's the right thing to do because we love our country and we are going to put americans first. I don't question whether most people love the USA, I am strarting to question whether there are a few at the top that could care less if the united states exists or not, there question is how are we going to make money off of whatever happens when the USA is gone??? Just wonder if corporations don't ever put america first, are they un-american. Because remember as Mitt R. said "corporations are people too, my friend"

You would have to show me an example of a multi-million dollar company that does what you describe before I would respond to this post. I know this is hard for you to swallow, but the first interest of any company is to that of it's share holders or the parties who hold the majority of risk in the company's success. Creating jobs and keeping jobs available cannot and should not be at the top of the priority list if the company is going to survive.
 
Corporations do not care about the little people they care about prices and stock options that's all .If they cared alot of them would still be in this country making goods here and selling them abroad instead of using slave labor and making cheaper products and selling junk back to us !! Corporations do not care about the people whom work for them anymore your a number , Bar Code Ect anyone that wants to believe otherwise is drinking way too much Koolaide !!

I'll take being a number any day over anyone in upper management ever putting my name to my face. Best to do my job and stay off the skyline.
 
That's the key and the only way to start to fix things, take the money out of politics. If somebody wants to run for office, they should have to Qualify by collecting signitures to meet a certain threshhold, then they get "x" amount of money, public money only. Yes it would be taxpayer money, but they would all get the exact same amount, then they would answer to the voters(taxpayers). They get NO MONEY from BIG BUSINES or UNIONS or SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. Then the will of the people will start to get done and not the will of the people that have the most money, which is usually big business or the elite.:coffee1:

Your idea has been ruled as an abridgement of the first amendment by the SCOTUS. You'll have to come up with a better plan.
 
Corporations do not care about the little people they care about prices and stock options that's all .If they cared alot of them would still be in this country making goods here and selling them abroad instead of using slave labor and making cheaper products and selling junk back to us !! Corporations do not care about the people whom work for them anymore your a number , Bar Code Ect anyone that wants to believe otherwise is drinking way too much Koolaide !!

It's not a question of caring about the "little guy" or not. The job of an executive in any company is to make as much money for the shareholders as possible. Think about it, you are President and CEO of your family, right? Your job is to make decisions that are the absolute best for your family to prosper it. Lower wages aren't the only reason corporations take their operations to other countries, it's the crazy regulations and government interference they face in the US! Plus the US has one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world. This is why I was a Herman Cain supporter until he bowed out. Lower the tax rate, cut needless regulation and allow corporations to bring back capital gains made abroad without taxation, and you'd be surprised how many companies would come back here. This doesn't even take into account the amount of small to mid-sized businesses that are already here that would prosper. Small businesses create more jobs than big corporations anyway.
 
What you've just said is a complete contradiction. You said that this country will remain free because of the Constitution. Progressives (no matter which side of the aisle they sit on) believe our Constitution is an outdated document that should be done away with. So, if it's done away with, what do we replace it with? A European-style socialist government? That only works 'til the money runs out, then then you move to communism or a totalitarian society and they take what you have by force. Besides, we have the ability to change what we have in our constitution. It's called a constitutional amendment. With the agreement of 2/3 of the house and senate, plus 3/4 of the states approval, an amendment can be added, and the constitution changes. This is the cornerstone of being a republic, which is what we are. Democracy is the rule of the majority, the republic is governed by the rule of law.

The progressive movement started with Teddy Roosevelt, and was furthered by Woodrow Wilson and FDR. They believe that government can create a utopian society. But the government can't create prosperity for everyone. When you take away from someone and give to someone else, you bring EVERYONE down instead of bringing everyone forward. Progressives really aren't "progressive" because they believe in an inflated, beurocratic, centrally planned nanny-state. What's "progressive" about that? I'll take my individual freedom, thanks. That way I'm free to control my own prosperity, and everyone else in this great nation is as well.

Rush could not have said that anybetter.
 
It's hard for me, as a Conservative, to imagine that someone who claims they love the country could also be so quick to want to change it. If you love the country as you claim, then why do you feel this compulsion to change it?


You see, you just questioned my love for this country in ONE post. Whats up with that? Just because someone has a different idea of what they think America should be does not mean that they do not love her anyless or anymore than you do.
 
What you've just said is a complete contradiction. You said that this country will remain free because of the Constitution. Progressives (no matter which side of the aisle they sit on) believe our Constitution is an outdated document that should be done away with. So, if it's done away with, what do we replace it with? A European-style socialist government?

This country IS FREE because of the Constitution. Yes the Constitution can be amended and it has been, many, many times. I am a progressive or at least I like to think that I am and I DO NOT THINK the Constitution is an outdated document and should be done away with. I don't know ANYONE that thinks that the Constitution should be done away with so I don't know why you think that.

Nobody wants a "European-style socialist government" but a lot of people would like a lot of people to think that a lot of people do want "European -style socialist government" Lets get everyone scared of the big bad socialists in Europe and maybe we can win this election.
 
What you've just said is a complete contradiction. You said that this country will remain free because of the Constitution. Progressives (no matter which side of the aisle they sit on) believe our Constitution is an outdated document that should be done away with. So, if it's done away with, what do we replace it with? A European-style socialist government? That only works 'til the money runs out, then then you move to communism or a totalitarian society and they take what you have by force. Besides, we have the ability to change what we have in our constitution. It's called a constitutional amendment. With the agreement of 2/3 of the house and senate, plus 3/4 of the states approval, an amendment can be added, and the constitution changes. This is the cornerstone of being a republic, which is what we are. Democracy is the rule of the majority, the republic is governed by the rule of law.

The progressive movement started with Teddy Roosevelt, and was furthered by Woodrow Wilson and FDR. They believe that government can create a utopian society. But the government can't create prosperity for everyone. When you take away from someone and give to someone else, you bring EVERYONE down instead of bringing everyone forward. Progressives really aren't "progressive" because they believe in an inflated, beurocratic, centrally planned nanny-state. What's "progressive" about that? I'll take my individual freedom, thanks. That way I'm free to control my own prosperity, and everyone else in this great nation is as well.
You know that little bit about the European style socialist government till the money runs out ? That seems to be the same with a capitalistic society where your only as good as your money , when the money runs out nobody knows ya . The more money ya got the better capitalism treats ya .
 
This country IS FREE because of the Constitution. Yes the Constitution can be amended and it has been, many, many times. I am a progressive or at least I like to think that I am and I DO NOT THINK the Constitution is an outdated document and should be done away with. I don't know ANYONE that thinks that the Constitution should be done away with so I don't know why you think that.

Nobody wants a "European-style socialist government" but a lot of people would like a lot of people to think that a lot of people do want "European -style socialist government" Lets get everyone scared of the big bad socialists in Europe and maybe we can win this election.
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You know that little bit about the European style socialist government till the money runs out ? That seems to be the same with a capitalistic society where your only as good as your money , when the money runs out nobody knows ya . The more money ya got the better capitalism treats ya .
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This country IS FREE because of the Constitution. Yes the Constitution can be amended and it has been, many, many times. I am a progressive or at least I like to think that I am and I DO NOT THINK the Constitution is an outdated document and should be done away with. I don't know ANYONE that thinks that the Constitution should be done away with so I don't know why you think that.

Nobody wants a "European-style socialist government" but a lot of people would like a lot of people to think that a lot of people do want "European -style socialist government" Lets get everyone scared of the big bad socialists in Europe and maybe we can win this election.

If you believe in the Constitution, I hate to burst your bubble, but you are not a progressive. And there ARE people who seek to do away with our constitution and replace it. In an earlier post you said in reference to what I had posted that "Rush could not have said it better". Well, here's something ol' Woody Wilson said and I guess HE couldn't have said it better. "All that progressives ask or desire," wrote Woodrow Wilson, "is permission -- in an era when development, evolution, is a scientific word -- to interpret the Constitution according to the Darwinian principle; all they ask is recognition of the fact that a nation is a living thing and not a machine."

Meaning, that a literal interpretation of the Constitution was not acceptable, we need to interpret it through the "Darwinian principal". If you believe in progressivism, I guess you are also an evolutionist as well. Better yet, check this out. Is this you? I hope to God it's not. Progressivism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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