Ice Rider, You dont get out much. It is true the Union is not as good as it could be. But working without a contract makes you the looser every time. If you compare terminals, Union and Non Union that are close to each other, there is no question that the lay offs are worse at the Non Union terminal. And also you bid on every job by senority, at a Union shop. If you were in a Non Union terminal, you would find out that favoritism decicdes who gets what job. A Non Union terminal can loose territory like mine did, which caused more lay offs. A Union yard can not. A Non Union yard can loose line bids to other terminals, which cause more lay offs. A Union yard can not. And most importantly, you get to vote on major changes, non union yards do not. Why do you think that you did not get a pay cut like the office staff and management ? Because everybody knew you would vote no. So they didnt even take a vote. Last year my dispatcher was told he would have to start paying 200 a month for health care that use to be free. This year he was told 400 a month. Everybody not protected by a contract in the office and management now pays 400 a month for the family rate for Health care. Do you think they would charge you the same if they could ? Of course they would, but your contract protects you. If you dont believe that the contract protects your wages, senority, and health care, then you must believe that the company just loves you more than everybody else. V.P. Big Bob Peeble told us non union drivers that the only reason we have not taken a pay cut or been charged for a portion of our health care, is that it would cause all the Non Union employees to go Union. Is that plain enough for you. Wake UP! There are plenty of reasons to complain about the Union, and the Union reps, however you would make less money, pay for health care, and get layed off much quicker without a contract.