Just answering the mans question. Troubleman what to know where I got the stuff I said so I replied. Was I in a union shop? Yes 2 different one. Do I think we need a union here? No. In my eyes the unions have turn in the same thing everyone blaming company CEOs of being and that greedy. I have never posted on any other trucking company board, I may read then but never post. Yet we have a tons of outsides on ours. The outsiders say there here to set the record straight, but never say a word about their pensions. You google teamster and pension and that all you see, underfunded, reducing pay to retires. Its time you take control of your own life and finance