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different strokes for different folks. not every center has these rules.. some expect a lunch by everybody some don't
 
I think the road driver are under Harrisons rules after they leave the terminal. Unless you have to work the dock any length of time then drive the terminal can call the shots then. The problem this is coming from is two EX NATIONAL redshirts in CMH trying to implement a policy from National that may of or not even been handled right at National. So if not implemented right when we were National, they need to go back and remove any write ups in our files for this infraction.
 
I've been here ten years, and have always shown a lunch- taken or not, after I drop out at the destination, at a meet or waiting at your meet. The mileage made no difference, meet, etc.. At FRE, a 90 mile run, they ask you to take your lunch after you drop out. And for compensation at a turn, I was told- to show a lunch between the drop and hook in order to get paid for them, if you did'nt- you would only get paid a 1/2 hour- no matter what.

I was also told or read, since the merger, taking a lunch was no longer necessary at a shuttle run, in order to get the freight moving quicker. It's for your own good to take the break- get out and walk around, catch a quick nap, if you have too. Don't let this place take it away from you. I'm waiting for the day they take the fixed compenations away, enjoy them while they last.
 
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The problem with the lunch they are implicating is that it has to be taken between the third and sixth our of being on duty. For a road driver that runs into problems. If you start you 14 hour clock you have a half hour mandated show up time then out the gate on a turn you will have to stop before the meet to take lunch. This is what they are implying at CMH. So say you have a 544 meet and turn and with no problems your lunch will start at 5 hours and 45 minutes into your run if you drive straight there. So if the run is longer you will have to stop take a lunch then go to your meet spot.I know this from first hand because I have 3 write ups for this such thing. Waiting for frieght at the hub at the beginning of the day and didn't take lunch till meet point. They say your day starts as soon as you go on duty not driving.
 
Ah I forgot this lunch has to be logged on Line one or you will be written up for that so you actually loose 1 hr a day with no pay.
 
Gator said:
The problem with the lunch they are implicating is that it has to be taken between the third and sixth our of being on duty. For a road driver that runs into problems. If you start you 14 hour clock you have a half hour mandated show up time then out the gate on a turn you will have to stop before the meet to take lunch. This is what they are implying at CMH. So say you have a 544 meet and turn and with no problems your lunch will start at 5 hours and 45 minutes into your run if you drive straight there. So if the run is longer you will have to stop take a lunch then go to your meet spot.I know this from first hand because I have 3 write ups for this such thing. Waiting for frieght at the hub at the beginning of the day and didn't take lunch till meet point. They say your day starts as soon as you go on duty not driving.
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I would call Harrison on the write ups. I have never shown a lunch on a meet n turn, and none of the other road drivers at my barn have ever shown a lunch on a meet n turn, unless they choose to.

I would ask CMH if that is the rule Harrison is putting out there for you, or are they just making them up for CMH drivers only?
 
If the new rules go into effect, you will have to show a one-hour break no matter what. If they go to the paperless logs, you'll have to show a one hour break ( one half hour and at least two ten minute breaks) UPS has been doing this forever. If you don't, the computer will show it as a violation. So you may as well get yourself in the habit of showing a one hour break, off duty, because it will soon be be law. Look it up in the new, soon to be revised, DOT logging rules. Computer logs will be madatory, soon, I forget the date. So get ready to throw out the white out, and no more "creative logging".

And as for showing it on your log, it's for your own good, back in the day, to make money and squeeze out every mile, showing the breaks extended your 60 or 70 hours, whether you took them or not. Working here, it gets you back to your terminal legally, but this too, will be gone with the implementation of the paperless log.
 
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I thought DOT would require a lunch. I dont log much myself but didnt think you could work 12-14 hours a day without showing a break.
 
lunch rule is we haul and deal with the fed.gov. they don't a law suite by the way could be construded as dicrimation in some cases and if you log 12 hours straight without a break you are an idiot and asking for an aduit at the weight scale or haz mat check.
 
Bull Lo Knee there Lucy....but don't take my word for it....

See page 2 of the Federal DOT Guide to Interstate Truck Drivers Hours of Service:

"You are allowed 14 consecutive hours of duty time after being off for 10 or more consecutive hours."

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/truck/driver/hos/fmcsa-guide-to-hos.PDF

Consecutive ok? Like in a row with no breaks? (for now anyway, changes may be on the way)
 
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I know it may be silly but that little thing called haz-mat that we haul......... no such thing as off duty when a solo driver is hauling it yes?
 
Superstar-ss39 said:
I know it may be silly but that little thing called haz-mat that we haul......... no such thing as off duty when a solo driver is hauling it yes?
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You aren't allowed to haul the stuff that requires attendance at all times. Explosives and radioactive require it, the rest of the hazmat you can leave alone.

The lunch rule stems from our freinds on the left coast. Thanks Kalifornia.

Guardrail
 
Haz-mat ? when we are placarded are we supposed to show a stop every 100 miles to check tires? a friends company says it's DOT law that when placards are visable that you are supposed to show a milage and kick some tire every 100 miles. He hauls tote tanks just like we do.
 
FLOUNDER said:
Haz-mat ? when we are placarded are we supposed to show a stop every 100 miles to check tires?
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Nope, that's the old rule. After 9-11 the FMCSA decided the risk of stopping every 100 miles didn't out weigh the reward. The rule is you check the tires any time you park the vehicle.


397.17

Tires.

(a) A driver must examine each tire on a motor vehicle at the beginning of each trip and each time the vehicle is parked.
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Here's the rule on attending a vehicle with explosives.


§ 397.5 Attendance and surveillance of motor vehicles.

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, a motor vehicle which contains a Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 (explosive) material must be attended at all times by its driver or a qualified representative of the motor carrier that operates it.
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Fedex Freight doesn't have the authority to haul those 3 divisions.


Guardrail-Xoomin'
 
stupid rules

You want to know the real reason we have these stupid rules. Just follow the lawsuits.
 
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AF would let you take your lunch as a road driver before arrival on a 474+ mile hub driver, BUT they preferred you take it when you arrived, in order to service the freight. Shuttle drivers and others (meet)were required to take them upon arrival at the destination/or at the meet point, or probably the 4th & 6th hour for shuttle. I never heard of having to stop between your 4th&6th hour, most of my runs were under five hours. If you are waiting at a meet, you have to show a lunch and 1/2 hour delay to get compensation waiting any longer. If you take your lunch before you meet, that driver will probably leave you a nice note on your bills, that is- after you find them... brake cleaner removes most fifth wheel grease.

I understand this policy is for hourly employees & city, not road drivers. Unless you have a very short shuttle run, of course, depending on how much dock work or other hourly compensation you do. I'm not sure if alot of you are aware of this, but if you shuttle trailers- you have to show that time under driving.
 
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