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I'd like to invite every one of you skeptics, to click on the last page link, for threads in this forum. It'll take you back to threads from 2006. Read through some of them, and tell me the whole attitude of this company hasn't changed. We didn't start this fight. Management brought this on themselves. For the life of me, how can you all not see the erosion of our standing with this company. I, for one, am a linehaul driver. If I had a nickle for every time I've been told by management that my job class costs the company too much money, I'd be able to retire. We are treated as liabilities. That infuriates the **** out of me. We are assets to this company, and should be treated as such.
 
pig_pen said:
I find it funny all these union threads talk about respect. Respect is not something that can be delagated by a contract....
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The respect comes from STRENGTH provided by written rules and procedures for correcting violations thereof. Rules written into the contract. That respect works both ways.

There was once a high degree of respect, that was part of the fabric of the companies that FedEx acquired. The loss of a respectful environment came from above, and trickled down... Like an avalanche, coming down the mountain.
 
All these Ceo's are mentioning driver shortage but don't mention the low starting pay. Or how they only care if you work when their busy & could care less about your needs in the dead season. Like UPSF for example top pay package in ltl but they start you so low & it takes you 4 yrs to hit top rate. It's bad enough your going to be begging for work in the slow season but to start them out that low is just wrong!
 
boats said:
All these Ceo's are mentioning driver shortage but don't mention the low starting pay. Or how they only care if you work when their busy & could care less about your needs in the dead season. Like UPSF for example top pay package in ltl but they start you so low & it takes you 4 yrs to hit top rate. It's bad enough your going to be begging for work in the slow season but to start them out that low is just wrong!
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True about UPSF with low starting pay but once you consider the 8 dollar an hour pension payment it is about the equivalent of what a top scale FXF employee makes.
 
boats said:
All these Ceo's are mentioning driver shortage but don't mention the low starting pay. Or how they only care if you work when their busy & could care less about your needs in the dead season. Like UPSF for example top pay package in ltl but they start you so low & it takes you 4 yrs to hit top rate. It's bad enough your going to be begging for work in the slow season but to start them out that low is just wrong!
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It's been awhile since I looked at the contract, but I don't recall it saying 4 years to top pay???
 
pig_pen said:
I find it funny all these union threads talk about respect. Respect is not something that can be delagated by a contract. Most people I deal with at FedEx don't desevre respect, most are self absorded crybabies who think management should fall to their knees and kiss their feet. In my 5 years I have only had one instance where a red shirt disrespected me and I handled it with the hub manager and human resources. My in law retired from UPS as a package delivery driver and some of the stories he tells about how he was treated and talked to be management make this place seem great. That will probably be the atmosphere at FXF after the union is voted in. If the union is what the majority wants that's fine but my vote will be NO.
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It seems the red shirts know who the can disrespect and who they can't... Know what I mean...

P.S. A union would make FedEx a much better place to work in my opinion. Work rules, pay raise, and pension. We at UPSF wouldn't have what we have without the union.

It would be more inline with what you have. Maybe a little lower...
 
FedEx doesn't want drivers. They want a forklift driver with a CDL. That eliminates a majority of the well qualified drivers in the industry. I don't know2 many drivers that want to load trailers. I never asked Mom and Dad to drive by a warehouse so I could get the forklift driver to honk his horn.
 
I think it is finding qualified drivers that is the problem. That coupled with many OTR guys have no idea just how much better this side of the fence pays or even how or where to apply. When I worked for the small local flatbed company here it was honestly difficult to find guys that could pass a drug test or that were not complete dumb asses. In my opinion it doesn't have a lot to do with our working condition. I can assure you there are many OTR, 35 cpm, home 4 days a month guys that would kill to fill your positions. These jobs and how to find them just aren't effectively advertised. I had no clue what it was all about or what it paid until I sold a national driver a cb radio on ebay. He wanted to talk to me about the radio and we started talking about the job and how and where to apply.
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OTR guys don't have a clue how to get into any of the LTL carriers. I wasn't even aware of FedEx Freight until I saw a contractor advertising online for drivers. FXFC largely hires from within, drivers become contractors. Getting in without having a clue there's an opening is hard.
 
steelhauler34 said:
I think it is finding qualified drivers that is the problem. That coupled with many OTR guys have no idea just how much better this side of the fence pays or even how or where to apply. When I worked for the small local flatbed company here it was honestly difficult to find guys that could pass a drug test or that were not complete dumb asses. In my opinion it doesn't have a lot to do with our working condition. I can assure you there are many OTR, 35 cpm, home 4 days a month guys that would kill to fill your positions. These jobs and how to find them just aren't effectively advertised. I had no clue what it was all about or what it paid until I sold a national driver a cb radio on ebay. He wanted to talk to me about the radio and we started talking about the job and how and where to apply.
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Seriously, with all the purchase transportation drivers coming in and out of our yards, surely one of them had to see the fading now hiring apply within sign outside FXF. Even those guys would rather sleep in a truck then to have to put up with all the BS here! Not to mention the having to hook and pull a set, only drive 20 miles a night, and then freeze you butt on a dock. Its a lot easier for the OTR companies to find real drivers then FXF to find dockworkers with CDLS who happened to enjoy sub freezing temperatures. Maybe FXF should start looking for "drivers" at the North Pole.
 
frtshaker said:
Seriously, with all the purchase transportation drivers coming in and out of our yards, surely one of them had to see the fading now hiring apply within sign outside FXF. Even those guys would rather sleep in a truck then to have to put up with all the BS here! Not to mention the having to hook and pull a set, only drive 20 miles a night, and then freeze you butt on a dock. Its a lot easier for the OTR companies to find real drivers then FXF to find dockworkers with CDLS who happened to enjoy sub freezing temperatures. Maybe FXF should start looking for "drivers" at the North Pole.
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Never in my life have seen a hiring or drivers needed sign in a FXF yard. The purchase drivers that come and go are like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the overall group..lol. I also believe the 20 mile road runs are also a small sample. I just 100% disagree. If the hiring process and wageswere more openly displayed there would be guys killing to get in here. This company actually has some high standards for getting hired. That keeps more out than anything I would think. Like I said, finding guys that can pass drug screen and background checks is the problem. This will only get worse as more stares legalize pot.
 
Top rate for most of the OTR guys is .45 cpm and you don't get hourly pay except it very certain circumstances and only if the customer pays the detention fee at most of them. As for hiring I don't know fxf standards but I so know upsf was 1 year clean driving record and 2 years experience. Even with those standards we can't fill all our road positions. Industry wide there is like a 50k shortage of available drivers and by 2020 (I think) it was supposed to grow to around 250k shortage
 
Just as it is hard to fill positions in the LTL sector, I have seen the standards for OTR positions lowered. For example, the one that raises an eyebrow is with some top tier otr carriers that once had a "no felonies" stance in years past, now many are on a "case by case" basis. I wonder what felonies would be overlooked? And with everybody these days semingly on meds or with past dui's who's left to drive a truck??:guinesssmilie:
 
steelhauler34 said:
Never in my life have seen a hiring or drivers needed sign in a FXF yard. The purchase drivers that come and go are like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the overall group..lol. I also believe the 20 mile road runs are also a small sample. I just 100% disagree. If the hiring process and wageswere more openly displayed there would be guys killing to get in here. This company actually has some high standards for getting hired. That keeps more out than anything I would think. Like I said, finding guys that can pass drug screen and background checks is the problem. This will only get worse as more stares legalize pot.
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Sir, I can only speak or type to what I see in the area I work in.
 
steelhauler34 said:
Never in my life have seen a hiring or drivers needed sign in a FXF yard. The purchase drivers that come and go are like a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the overall group..lol. I also believe the 20 mile road runs are also a small sample. I just 100% disagree. If the hiring process and wageswere more openly displayed there would be guys killing to get in here. This company actually has some high standards for getting hired. That keeps more out than anything I would think. Like I said, finding guys that can pass drug screen and background checks is the problem. This will only get worse as more stares legalize pot.
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"Now hiring" signs are indeed going up (as never before), and a big part of the difficulty recruiting in my area in the difference in pay. Many other carriers simply pay more. And the standard has also been lowered. Drug screen, physical, not sure how much exp. is now required, but it can't be much. Never seen FedEx guys have trouble backing a trailer, ever before. Before now...
 
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