Why don't you try telling the whole story there turncoat? How about saying that ABF had the chance to either transition to a new liability payment pool which would of reduced the value of each member's pension by about $9,000 per year.. like UPS and other Teamster's employers have done or continue paying an 8-percent-a-year increase to maintain the status quo.
That's right... it made financial sense to UPS which got out from under a heavy withdrawal liability and given more than 50 years with which to make those payments. So UPS decided it was best to pay that $1.2 billion in withdrawal liability by entering an agreement to pay the withdrawal liability in annual $43 million installments over 50 years.
But guess what... ABF said hell no because those greedy and arrogant POS thought they could eventually find a way around that withdrawal liability just like YRC... by way of contract negotiations. How about just try thinking sometimes before you just spout off? This way there's less of chance of you showing your ignorance... not much... but someone like you needs to take advantage of everything you can in order to not look foolish and ignorant. You know... It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
If you did take a moment or two and think and know your history along with spending some time doing a little research... you might just come to the conclusion that ABF went after the wages... vacations and less stringent work rules last contract and now coming for the Health & Welfare and Pension. That's right... they now give you that vacation back that you gave them in the first place... get that raise you were supposed to get in 2013 and you act like you just hit the jackpot and could care less about anything else... right? You are a damn fool!
But this doesn't surprise me one bit about you seeing how you voted to give away the farm at YRC right before you left then came to ABF and voted to give away their farm too.
First I noticed nobody signed the ABF letter. Who is it from? The letter states it would be inappropriate to discuss anything about the t.a. out of respect for the process. Then because Mr. O'Brien made a preemptive suggestion to his members ABF feels they now have the right to release a two page very detailed position paper. So much for respect for the process. I think this is the corporate equivalent of going over someone's head. The I.B.T. should now release the t.a. in it's entirety to talk directly to the members the same as ABF did. ImhoBut... just like company spokesman turncoat... they're not telling the whole truth... and here was my reply to him...
First I noticed nobody signed the ABF letter. Who is it from? The letter states it would be inappropriate to discuss anything about the t.a. out of respect for the process. Then because Mr. O'Brien made a preemptive suggestion to his members ABF feels they now have the right to release a two page very detailed position paper. So much for respect for the process. I think this is the corporate equivalent of going over someone's head. The I.B.T. should now release the t.a. in it's entirety to talk directly to the members the same as ABF did. Imho
PAY A GOOD RATE OR LOCK THE GATE!! Have y'all noticed that Bubby Gump and his bubba friend, Turncoat seem to have disappeared since "the gang" came back..You're right jimk849... just like all propaganda... no one ever signs those ABF Contract Straight Talks that come out.
your right kk... I wish the yrc guys hadn't had started this trend.An Injury To One, Is An Injury To All! First the NE Fund, and then many more may follow if allowed!
I wished they had listened too...your right kk... I wish the yrc guys hadn't had started this trend.
Canary, I agree with you 99.9% . However I hired into ABF in 1985, and retired in 2016 at the age of 57 with 31 years contributed to the CSPF. I had 2 other jobs prior to ABF that were under a white paper contract, and did not contribute to the pension fund. I know how fortunate(LUCKY) I was, compared to my fellow co-workers (some of them working for 4-7 different employer's). I was never laid-off, or had a break in service (I was truly blessed).By the way,........I don't think there's a single Teamster out there who has worked for ABF, and ABF only,...for their entire career......That makes us ALL..."orphans"....to some degree, in ABF's eyes......
I don't want anything to happen to anyone's retirement, but why is it that Abf is supposed to absorb the cost of yrc and others insufficient contributions?I wished they had listened too...
they did the 1st NO vote, and had they voted NO the 2nd time we may have been able to get a MOU that gave us back our 15% over the 5 years MOU...But they did not....so y'all better listen up this time and vote NO to ANY concessions or you will be crying the blues for 5 more years too because a lot of those who voted yes for the MOU at YRCW quit later and came to work for ABF and stuck us with this :::: until 2019!
I don't want anything to happen to anyone's retirement, but why is it that Abf is supposed to absorb the cost of yrc and others insufficient contributions?
No..tell meLet me guess ... you believe everything you read in the ABF Straight Talk... don't you?
I bet that you still believe Judy when she said that 70% of ABF's costs are in wages and benefits too!!! After all... if Judy said it... it must be true... right?
Do you know anything... anything at all... about the New England Teamster's Hybrid Plan?
No..tell me
Haha! Damn dude , you sure have a hell of a way of communicating to us into what your selling. Judy 1 / docker 0.Go find it for yourself... it's on this forum. Then you can you say you actually did something productive for a change instead of just looking like a dumb ass troll.
Haha! Damn dude , you sure have a hell of a way of communicating to us into what your selling. Judy 1 / docker 0.