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FedEx Freight | Abysmal morale on the Orlando hub

YourTM? said:
2.) It is cheaper to use part time labor to move freight. However, your assumption is that there are people lined up in que for the opportunity to sweat their n*ts off humping a concrete slab in the middle of a hot Florida night. Negative ghost rider. People don’t want to work. They especially don’t want to work in a job that is challenging, dangerous and thankless. The last round of pt dock new hires for the shift. Only 1 of 5 lasted more than two weeks. So, you have to make the most of the resources available to get the job…
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Wait, you suggest that a PROFESSIONAL DRIVER who has a CDL with HAZMAT should willingly work in ways that this company can’t hire ANYONE else to do?

Then drive the truck safely?

For less than industry standard compensation?

Because that’s better for leadership?

“People” don’t want to work, but drivers should? Because drivers < “people”?

SMH. Another completely skewed post from “YourTM?”…
 
Warlock said:
All well and good if expectations are the same for everybody

Good hands tend to get bent outta shape when some guys are expected to do more than others to pick up their slack
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Once, many years ago, a dispatcher tried to force me to run past my log after being only one of three drivers willing to run through a blizzard. “We need you to grab a trailer and run 114 miles”. No! “But we thought you were one of the good guys”.

Apparently not.
 
truckingBORED said:
Once, many years ago, a dispatcher tried to force me to run past my log after being only one of three drivers willing to run through a blizzard. “We need you to grab a trailer and run 114 miles”. No! “But we thought you were one of the good guys”.

Apparently not.
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Smart move, because even if you were considered one of the good guys. If you wreck you would have got. You shouldn't have been driving. We have to disqualify you, but you can work all the dock you want...
 
YourTM? said:
In response to the original poster:
If Retaliation means holding everyone to the same standard and forcing them to fulfill their bid dock obligations, then YES there was retaliation.
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Held to the same standard my A$$! Fedex hires liars, thiefs, and lazy workers now. They hide behind isms and phobias to avoid corrective action.

Management let's them get away with it to avoid standing up to HR! The current quality of worker is FedEx corporates doing. Starting in 2008 till now. The reputation as a good place to work is gone.

ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP CAPTAIN!
 
nasvegas said:
Held to the same standard my A$$! Fedex hires liars, thiefs, and lazy workers now. They hide behind isms and phobias to avoid corrective action.

Management let's them get away with it to avoid standing up to HR! The current quality of worker is FedEx corporates doing. Starting in 2008 till now. The reputation as a good place to work is gone.

ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP CAPTAIN!
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That is it in a nutshell. It’s a a shame to see the destruction of a company.Like one post said almost like it’s being done intentionally.
 
Panhandler92 said:
The only drivers this company employs is purchase or those on hubturns. The rest are dockworkers with company transport. LOU & IND will make sure you know this when you put in so many hours on the hub you have to legally take a lunch on the clock. Thats why morale is in the :::shit:::ter.

Imagine dealing with all the DOT nonsense, all the regulation, traffic, the way we can't get out of our own way on the road, all the beeps-buzzers-whatnot in the trucks just to be a dockworker for years on end, decades even.
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Beep Buzz Tinnitus High Blood Pressure class action lawsuit anyone ?
 
YourTM? said:
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If Retaliation means holding everyone to the same standard and forcing them to fulfill their bid dock obligations, then YES there was retaliation. However, you sir are correct that the morale is awful on the ORL hub cycle. But, it’s not for the typical reasons regurgitated over and over on this board. The core issue is a loud minority of drivers acting like entitled children. Boo hoo, you have to work the dock. Possible even up until your cut time. The audacity! The injustice! 1.) You bid the run knowing it required you to work the dock. This expectation is clearly outlined in the drivers manual and states your day is based on 12 hrs with a chunk devoted to moving freight on a forklift. Don’t like the way FedEx uses their shuttle drivers? Take that up with Raj. and company but stop giving your teammates in leadership a hard time every damn night. 2.) It is cheaper to use part time labor to move freight. However, your assumption is that there are people lined up in que for the opportunity to sweat their n*ts off humping a concrete slab in the middle of a hot Florida night. Negative ghost rider. People don’t want to work. They especially don’t want to work in a job that is challenging, dangerous and thankless. The last round of pt dock new hires for the shift. Only 1 of 5 lasted more than two weeks. So, you have to make the most of the resources available to get the job done. My suggestion, until you get the line haul network revamped to your liking, you and your friends can help yourselves by doing the following: Hit the dock as soon as you drop out, fuel or take lunch depending on which of these tasks you need to perform. Between 00:00-03:00, every available body needs to be on a forklift. That’s not happening until 01:00-01:30. When you do hit the dock, put forth effort. If everyone there runs an average of 6 bills per hour as a shift, you will easily get out way ahead of your cut times. Finally, remember that positivity is infectious. Go in there and be the change you want to see. Work together, assume positive intentions and everyone wins. The SCM at ORL is a solid operator and a good guy. Work with him to improve things! Or, ignore my advice and just bitch/moan anonymously. Best of luck and safe travels.
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Yeah we tried all of that before...No good.
 
Visitor here. TM guy has some valid points if that’s the way it was in the real world.

Maybe can’t hire dock in this post Covid, Dem run :shit:show. But you could’ve had double turns for low mileage runs couple years ago.

Five plus years to get a driving bid is a tough pill to swallow. Now you’ve lowered your standards for new hire drivers. Versus paying dock more, utilizing guys that want hours, etc.
 
White said:
Visitor here. TM guy has some valid points if that’s the way it was in the real world.

Maybe can’t hire dock in this post Covid, Dem run :::shit:::show. But you could’ve had double turns for low mileage runs couple years ago.

Five plus years to get a driving bid is a tough pill to swallow. Now you’ve lowered your standards for new hire drivers. Versus paying dock more, utilizing guys that want hours, etc.
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Yep this new crop gets mad in city if they gotta work over 8, and linehaul if they have to do a via. Forced one on a via one time and they whined and cried for a hour trying to get out of via.
 
nasvegas said:
Yep this new crop gets mad in city if they gotta work over 8, and linehaul if they have to do a via. Forced one on a via one time and they whined and cried for a hour trying to get out of via.
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I'd like more vias to escape the dock thanks.

Cleanups however suck big purple dick. But it is what it is.

Best thing is to know when you're getting one of them vias, and to make it ready as soon as possible. A majority of our vias off of our shuttle hubs you have to will it into being ready, so you work for it but its a light at the end of the tunnel deal as long as the freight gets there in a timely manner. I've had times where I'm looking at a 5 hour runtime with barely enough time to skate by because some dick from MI wants to take forever to get there and then take an hour to drop out. And yes, it always tends to be MI.... or PIT from time to time.
 
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Well you can always go to another sector of the industry such as OTR and see how that works? Every job is going to have bitches and complaints. It’s life. Drivers will appreciate the extra money when it isn’t there anymore and they are cut early on a 100 mile run.
 
Panhandler92 said:
My run is normally 112 miles, I'd be fine being turned around at the window every night.
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I would too. When I was bid on a 100 mile shuttle run, I'd ask if I could just head back. They always said no, but I'd figure I'd ask anyway.
Panhandler92 said:
Its all about managing your finances and not overstepping your bounds.

Theres many of our older fellas on the board that are retirement age but can't retire because they're in debt up to their eyeballs. all on 550+ mile runs.
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We have a few of those guys. Still working because they have nothing left for retirement. A lot of times they're forced out by preventables or inability to get a med card.
 
Streaker69 said:
I would too. When I was bid on a 100 mile shuttle run, I'd ask if I could just head back. They always said no, but I'd figure I'd ask anyway.

We have a few of those guys. Still working because they have nothing left for retirement. A lot of times they're forced out by preventables or inability to get a med card.
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This is only a problem because of our subpar benefits.

Offer healthcare with ANY legitimate pension and the gray would walk away.
 
truckingBORED said:
This is only a problem because of our subpar benefits.

Offer healthcare with ANY legitimate pension and the gray would walk away.
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Pensions were dead when I got hired on in 2012. They've been dead for a VERY long time.

Now instead of a savings thats completely locked away you yourself have to be responsible for your retirement. You either be responsible with your money or die in the truck. Or the economy takes a ::shit:: and we all get ****ed together.
 
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