Yellow | Darren’s letter to court

Zollars bought Holland, unquestionable the best regional LTL in the Midwest at the time who was king of overnight shipments and profitable. So why would you start up and add terminals in the Yellow network to compete with a company you already owned? Yellow tried to get into next day market.I have said it before will say it again. Upper management had an arrogant attitude and they couldn’t get away from that mindset.
Think about that in a business sense. Start a business up and compete with a business you already own and cut rates to get freight.
Hell Zollars is on board of USPS, that is a scary thing.

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Instead of learning and tweaking things and making Yellow better it was an arrogant attitude that we ( Yellow) know best. The amount of freight lost at Holland after the purchase was very noticeable in our area. We lost one customer immediately that provided over 100 bills a day and was very profitable. Same drivers same handling, just a new owner.
So call me bitter but I see it for what it is.
I told a big shot that they forgot the customer signs their paycheck, not Yellow. He was dumbfounded silent.
That often happens when companies merge. I had Yellow, Roadway, USF Bestway and Reddaway all as clients before the merger. I thought the Yellow system was the least viable of the 4...but they didn't ask me.

As to the big shot, I wouldn't confuse his silence with being dumbfounded...
 
I have just finished reading the entire piece from Darren Hawkins. As I stated in my first post (#3), now the IBT and the WARN lawsuit lawyers can have their turn. I see LOTS of convenient "holes" in Darren's story to the Court; of course this is not surprising. to me. I really think that the truth is going to play out in a Kansas courtroom, as well it should. Before it's over, I anticipate that the IBT will be bankrupted, the "glass house" will be exposed for LOTS of miscreant behavior, and hopefully a lot of employees will at least get some sort of retribution that's due them.
What has happened here is a travesty, and an avoidable one that was many years in the making. I still stand by my once-revised assessment: Yellow's several generations of C-suite executives over the last 20+ years are 70% at fault for the company's collapse; the IBT (O'Brien generation) is 15% to blame and some of the rank-and-file (the ones who thought this was a party, not a workplace) are 15% to blame..
Those of us who worked our hearts out trying to "save the ship" are NOT to blame; we are the unwitting victims.
 
I have just finished reading the entire piece from Darren Hawkins. As I stated in my first post (#3), now the IBT and the WARN lawsuit lawyers can have their turn. I see LOTS of convenient "holes" in Darren's story to the Court; of course this is not surprising. to me. I really think that the truth is going to play out in a Kansas courtroom, as well it should. Before it's over, I anticipate that the IBT will be bankrupted, the "glass house" will be exposed for LOTS of miscreant behavior, and hopefully a lot of employees will at least get some sort of retribution that's due them.
What has happened here is a travesty, and an avoidable one that was many years in the making. I still stand by my once-revised assessment: Yellow's several generations of C-suite executives over the last 20+ years are 70% at fault for the company's collapse; the IBT (O'Brien generation) is 15% to blame and some of the rank-and-file (the ones who thought this was a party, not a workplace) are 15% to blame..
Those of us who worked our hearts out trying to "save the ship" are NOT to blame; we are the unwitting victims.
Kudos to you for reading the entire piece. I skimmed through his statement and some of the exhibits. I saw enough there to know he wasn't telling the whole story, and at the same time enough to be convinced that they absolutely didn't know they were closing the doors back on June 7th. Which is the crux of the argument over a WARN Act violation as I understand it.

While we have agreed that there is enough blame to be spread amongst the 3 parties you mention, we still disagree on the percentages.

I absolutely agree that those of you who worked your hearts out trying to save the ship are assigned ZERO percent of the blame. Too bad there weren't more than a couple hundred of you in the whole system.
 
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Kudos to you for reading the entire piece. I skimmed through his statement and some of the exhibits. I saw enough there to know he wasn't telling the whole story, and at the same time enough to be convinced that they absolutely didn't know they were closing the doors back on June 7th. Which is the crux of the argument over a WARN Act violation as I understand it.

While we have agreed that there is enough blame to be spread amongst the 3 parties you mention, we still disagree on the percentages.

I absolutely agree that those of you who worked your hearts out trying to save the ship are assigned ZERO percent of the blame. Too bad there weren't more than a couple hundred of you in the whole system.
Hawkins puts letter out in May” we may not make it past August.”
Board approved retention bonuses in June to wind down company.
And you think they didn’t know.
I think Hawkins out smarted SOB
and got him to play right into his hands and blame the union.
I believe there were far more than a few hundred. The company’s ability to waste money and operate inefficiently far exceeded the employees ability to preserve the company.
Remember they had 20 years to get it right, you can’t keep putting the blame on the union.
 
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Kudos to you for reading the entire piece. I skimmed through his statement and some of the exhibits. I saw enough there to know he wasn't telling the whole story, and at the same time enough to be convinced that they absolutely didn't know they were closing the doors back on June 7th. Which is the crux of the argument over a WARN Act violation as I understand it.

While we have agreed that there is enough blame to be spread amongst the 3 parties you mention, we still disagree on the percentages.

I absolutely agree that those of you who worked your hearts out trying to save the ship are assigned ZERO percent of the blame. Too bad there weren't more than a couple hundred of you in the whole system.
Ex, there were way, way more than a "couple of hundred" who were doing all they could to save the company, and for years not weeks. If the number you suggest were true, I would be the only one in my terminal. That isn't accurate at all; I had quite a few who went above and beyond every day. What was surprising to me is that we are the senior citizens, not the millennials.
I couldn't give a hard number on this; I was out there trying to "save the ship" so I didn't have time to watch everybody else. But I was well aware of the efforts of several of my City drivers, much of my Office staff, and a few of our management staff. To be fair, I also knew of a handful of my City drivers who were absolutely useless. Why they weren't taken to task years ago is beyond my comprehension.
 
Ex, there were way, way more than a "couple of hundred" who were doing all they could to save the company, and for years not weeks. If the number you suggest were true, I would be the only one in my terminal. That isn't accurate at all; I had quite a few who went above and beyond every day. What was surprising to me is that we are the senior citizens, not the millennials.
I couldn't give a hard number on this; I was out there trying to "save the ship" so I didn't have time to watch everybody else. But I was well aware of the efforts of several of my City drivers, much of my Office staff, and a few of our management staff. To be fair, I also knew of a handful of my City drivers who were absolutely useless. Why they weren't taken to task years ago is beyond my comprehension.
Unfortunately in years past management would overlook the slackers and go to a hard worker to get something done to save grief for themselves.
 
Unfortunately in years past management would overlook the slackers and go to a hard worker to get something done to save grief for themselves.
That's been my observation and experience as well. Unfortunately, that doesn't address the problem in a comprehensive way, which is what needed to happen. Concept: EVERYBODY rows the boat, not some just keeping a seat warm..
 
RT, maybe some hyperbole on my part previously. I feel confident that the number of employees giving it everything was somewhere around 5%. Call it 1000-2000 folks.
 
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RT, maybe some hyperbole on my part previously. I feel confident that the number of employees giving it everything was somewhere around 5%. Call it 1000-2000 folks.
I hope that's not the case, but as I said, I didn't have time to watch them. I was very busy taking care of business and trying to earn new business.
 
I had quite a few who went above and beyond every day. What was surprising to me is that we are the senior citizens, not the millennials.
I'm not surprised, a different era, a different upbringing, a different mindset. Sure there are exceptions but generally stereotypes are what they are for a reason.
 
300 plus terminals and only 4 to 6 per terminal. I think you put your confidence level extremely low,
The socialist system that makes all labor of equal value promotes mediocrity. The employee giving 100% everyday gets the same reward as the " show up, do as little as possible, punch out" employee. Work ethic and pride in performance have no value and cannot be rewarded. And then there's the whole seniority thing.
 
The socialist system that makes all labor of equal value promotes mediocrity. The employee giving 100% everyday gets the same reward as the " show up, do as little as possible, punch out" employee. Work ethic and pride in performance have no value and cannot be rewarded. And then there's the whole seniority thing.
Sadly, I agree with you. However, those of us who give and gave 100% (or more) get something that the "slugs" don't That is a sense of pride, self-respect and accomplishment that they don't. Yes, it would be very nice if that translated into cash, but that's the way it goes.
 
Sadly, I agree with you. However, those of us who give and gave 100% (or more) get something that the "slugs" don't That is a sense of pride, self-respect and accomplishment that they don't. Yes, it would be very nice if that translated into cash, but that's the way it goes.
Those slugs were proud and felt like they accomplished something every time they punched in and out, socking it to the man, getting their 15% back one way or another. How they had any self-respect is beyond me.
 
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