Don't know where you got your info, but APWA is out of Raleigh, NC. Also, the IBT has only started talks with UPSF at one terminal, in Indy.If the APWA can get a good foot hold, like the IBT did, without help from the more nefarious organizations and a little time they also could be a good union like the IBT was 30 years ago(cause it's not like that now). The APWA is also gaining support from the brown side too, although the brotherhood doesn't want to acknowledge that. Also you can check with the brown drivers down south that are not having their medical bills paid. Some drivers can retire now under the IBT(with 30) but if they wait till they're 62 the retirement amount goes down, and if they wait till 65 it goes down again, LOOK IT UP! I've got 11 years till 65 and it seems to me that the more that's paid in is the more you should get.