What facts? The fact is union membership is taking a dump. There members are being told they can't pay their pensions because they robbed them.Companies with unions are going out of business because people like you ask for more than the company can afford. You all love to use brown as a comparison but the big part of that company does something other than us. They compete with our sisters company. They set their rates as they want. We on the other hand have to compete with many carriers. Can't set our rates way above everyone else's so they can meet your demands. Let's do some math more money has to come in then go out. Spend more than you take in, no jobs for you and me. It's math, but I'm sure if you had or were willing to start a company you would let the employees tell you how much to pay them, and why not give them all the best benefits, three day work week,on and on. What gives you the right to tell the company that gave you a job how to do it's business. When you say that the union doesn't tell a company how to run it's business that's crap when employees strike they are trying to force their will on the employer hence telling them what to do. I know I won't change your mind you won't change mine, Now I will say with all those great rebuttals you give I see that big title wave coming. You might want to take your own advice.