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Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
Yes voters planning to leave, just need a couple weeks/months to get employed elsewhere so they vote yes.Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
Good point. A lot of these Yes voters are people getting ready to retire. They care nothing about the people that will be left to deal with the fallout of a substandard contract.Yes voters planning to leave, just need a couple weeks/months to get employed elsewhere so they vote yes.
Regardless of what anyone voted, Ups will do what they always do at contract time and that's just a fact. Ups has over 100 years of sticking it to the employee and making Billions. Its just the way it is.Most Yes voters will regret their decision in 5 years when UPS continues going after more and more of the employees pay and benefits. Your pension is probably next on the chopping block!
As bad as we perceive this contract at least it is not concessionary, as has been the last 20 or so years of the Master Freight agreements. The Company smells blood in the water and they circled and faced off with a weak Union that lost all it's clout. it was obvious to me at our vote with the brothers coming in in their street clothes the master plan of UPS succeeded in turning the vote around. Now we can focus on our Union leadership, they failed us, we can change that. Show up at meetings, gather a slate and challenge them. Whining, name calling, and the like won't change anything...
Well said!As bad as we perceive this contract at least it is not concessionary, as has been the last 20 or so years of the Master Freight agreements. The Company smells blood in the water and they circled and faced off with a weak Union that lost all it's clout. it was obvious to me at our vote with the brothers coming in in their street clothes the master plan of UPS succeeded in turning the vote around. Now we can focus on our Union leadership, they failed us, we can change that. Show up at meetings, gather a slate and challenge them. Whining, name calling, and the like won't change anything...
Well said. And very truthful. See you all in five years.Nobody understands it doesn't matter who the union leadership is, UPS will ALWAYS do what UPS does. This move they pulled worked for them. It scared most into a yes vote. It will work again every 5 years. And even IF there's better leadership and stronger fights, UPS will do the same thing, but not open back up. You people are really naive.
Why do sound like a diffraction person from the person using this account this morning? Someone posted that several people were using this account and I agree with them. Not so much fear, fear, fear from this person.This is what it's all about. The leadership f***** us!
all this stupid talk about balls and courage and integrity and all this other nonsense doesn't mean squat when you're up against a billion-dollar Juggernaut like UPS. And the union leadership is in their back pocket.
There's a time to fight and there's a time to retreat. And this unfortunately is one of those times.
Hoffa won the general election for the IBT by less than 6000 votes. If every member of UPS Freight voted against him he would not be the union president right now.
Why do sound like a diffraction person from the person using this account this morning? Someone posted that several people were using this account and I agree with them. Not so much fear, fear, fear from this person.
Its been done many, many time before. Absolutely nothing unusual.There is clearly a mental disconnect when you vote no, vote for a strike authorization and then vote yes.
Its going to be ok...……….I promise.This quote from another message board pretty much sums it up:
“I cant go on strike i have an $800 truck payment and my fat wife doesnt work and i have a boat and a harley and I make $90k but im broke and stupid im voting yes on anything!”
No need to worry about me. I voted no twice.Its going to be ok...……….I promise.
Well, you sure said it more than twice...……...lolNo need to worry about me. I voted no twice.