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FedEx Freight | Policy Update: Active collision mitigation system & Fwd facing cameras

Yep my insitives to, it's there equipment but after 30 years, 24 of them at Fedex I've been trying to give my self a reason to walk away from it. I'm only 54 is the hold back but I seem to be upset here more and more everyday.
To much micro managing and management always moving around. No lolalty, all I want to do is come in get my truck and do my job.
Oh well some will understand others will wish me gone, that's what society has become.
 
Gator said:
Yep my insitives to, it's there equipment but after 30 years, 24 of them at Fedex I've been trying to give my self a reason to walk away from it. I'm only 54 is the hold back but I seem to be upset here more and more everyday.
To much micro managing and management always moving around. No lolalty, all I want to do is come in get my truck and do my job.
Oh well some will understand others will wish me gone, that's what society has become.
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I think that's what most of us want, Gator. To show up, do our jobs and be left alone.

Having dealt with the Lytx Drive Can while at Day & Ross, I agree wholeheartedly that all of this monitoring equipment is nothing but a distraction. Even a safe driver is made nervous by these tools because you don't know what will set them off until it happens. I've known drivers with decades of safe service quit over this stuff.
 
I would love to see a camera in every cubicle , management office and when there caught facebooking, surfing the net or just screwing off, let's bust there butt for stealing company time.
See how long that would last.
 
Gator said:
Yep my insitives to, it's there equipment but after 30 years, 24 of them at Fedex I've been trying to give my self a reason to walk away from it. I'm only 54 is the hold back but I seem to be upset here more and more everyday.
To much micro managing and management always moving around. No lolalty, all I want to do is come in get my truck and do my job.
Oh well some will understand others will wish me gone, that's what society has become.
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I totally understand Gator!!!
 
Hello TruckingBoards. Long time lurker, first time poster. I understand where you all are coming from. No one wants to feel like someone is watching their every move. However, if you take a step back and look at the big picture, isn't safety our first priority? You all are professional drivers that spend thousands of hours traveling thousands of miles each year. How many times have you shaken your head at the multitude of unsafe acts you have witnessed? How many fatalities have you driven by? How many lives lost and destroyed due to unsafe driving habits that tempted fate one too many times? Now what if those lives could have been saved by correcting unsafe behavior before it's was too late? Is it worth it to you? What if the life saved was your loved one? I believe it when the company says Safety Above All. I believe in saving lives by changing unsafe behavior thru education and discussion. I hope you do too. Be safe out there. God bless.
***the opinions stated above are those of a lowly slab rat. They are mine alone and not that of my employer***
 
Ricky redshirt, you basing your opinion on theory there is more distractions now in the cab of a FedEx truck than ever.
First your the slowest truck out here, I guess they think that's more advertising. So you cannot move around someone going slower. That's a Hazzard and if you try to time it you have a buzzer going off , 2 second camera trigger getting ready to record and if it does your in the office for simply trying to pass a slower vehicle.
I'm all for Saftey but sometimes the company gets a little overbearing with little regard that you are hindering traffic instead of flowing with traffic.
 
RickyRedshirt12 said:
Hello TruckingBoards. Long time lurker, first time poster. I understand where you all are coming from. No one wants to feel like someone is watching their every move. However, if you take a step back and look at the big picture, isn't safety our first priority? You all are professional drivers that spend thousands of hours traveling thousands of miles each year. How many times have you shaken your head at the multitude of unsafe acts you have witnessed? How many fatalities have you driven by? How many lives lost and destroyed due to unsafe driving habits that tempted fate one too many times? Now what if those lives could have been saved by correcting unsafe behavior before it's was too late? Is it worth it to you? What if the life saved was your loved one? I believe it when the company says Safety Above All. I believe in saving lives by changing unsafe behavior thru education and discussion. I hope you do too. Be safe out there. God bless.
***the opinions stated above are those of a lowly slab rat. They are mine alone and not that of my employer***
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With respect, you sound exactly like the management did at Conway when they tried to sell us on the cameras. The problem is, the people making the decisions have never driven a truck in their life. The clips are reviewed by drivecam employees first, who decide if it's safe or unsafe. It's then forwarded to the company. We have had trainers refuse to retrain drivers because what they did was safe from a drivers perspective. I really hope mgmt from fed-ex doesn't get carried away with this... you will loose a whole lot of good people.
 
Gator said:
Yep my insitives to, it's there equipment but after 30 years, 24 of them at Fedex I've been trying to give my self a reason to walk away from it. I'm only 54 is the hold back but I seem to be upset here more and more everyday.
To much micro managing and management always moving around. No lolalty, all I want to do is come in get my truck and do my job.
Oh well some will understand others will wish me gone, that's what society has become.
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I fully understand your sentiment Gator but I'm curious, do you have the forward facing cameras/ELD in your tractor? From the way your post read, I'm guessing you do.
 
Redracer, don't get me wrong, I love the elog. Finally makes FedEx honest and I haven't had any recording since we went to it. But you could check the recording from the time the mounted it in your truck and only active without eloging. I had 3 headway recordings.
So yes I've changed some habits but when trying to overtake a slower vehicle in a 70 mph state on 2 lane interstate all this gets to be a real pain when your not doing anything but paceing a opening to pass and the 3 minute timer is clicking. You may have a minute and a half behind him then you get behind another truck in fast lane to pass the last thing you want to do is slow down to get your 2 seconds back till you finish the pass.
That's all I'm asking for is a little reality check on some of thus
 
Gator said:
Yes red for 3 months now
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First, we don't have them, yet, but we know they're coming. I say this because obviously I can't speak from personal experience but I've talked to many drivers who have them. Most sounded just like you before they got them and they were very apprehensive over what to expect but since they've got them and gotten used to them, most say they're not that big of a deal. Almost everyone loves the ELD's and most don't mind the forward facing cameras. Some have expressed the same concerns as you pertaining to the cameras, the following distance, and lack of power/speed but the braking, rollover, etc aren't an issue.
Just curious, would it be fair to say that if this one issue was addressed then a most wouldn't have a problem with the cameras?

As for years of experience, I've been driving for 24 years (20 with AF/FXFE) and I don't see the cameras jeopardizing my career...or others. I feel its an overreaction which is normal when something new comes along. Even as the "updated" policy points out, only egregiously unsafe driving behaviors will be addressed with corrective action and I believe most of us have enough experience that if that's the way we normally drove, we would've already been let go, by our own doing...agreed??
 
Red, I have no problem with the camera,as a matter fact I welcome it, but the 2 second rule I do have a issue with when trying to pass someone. I understand following to close but you ever see a slow vehicle and go ahead and get in the passing lane just to have people pass on the right. Just give us a truck that will run with traffic and this issue will resolve itself.
 
Gator said:
Red, I have no problem with the camera,as a matter fact I welcome it, but the 2 second rule I do have a issue with when trying to pass someone. I understand following to close but you ever see a slow vehicle and go ahead and get in the passing lane just to have people pass on the right. Just give us a truck that will run with traffic and this issue will resolve itself.
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Agreed.
 
My truck went to the shop for service about 3 weeks ago. Finally got it back last nite, now it beeps at me when I am 3 seconds behind another vehicle. Asked my SCM about it and he said that is the new standard. If u follow 3 seconds or closer for more than 2 minutes u will trigger a headway event.
 
pig_pen said:
My truck went to the shop for service about 3 weeks ago. Finally got it back last nite, now it beeps at me when I am 3 seconds behind another vehicle. Asked my SCM about it and he said that is the new standard. If u follow 3 seconds or closer for more than 2 minutes u will trigger a headway event.
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yep good luck passing a slower vehicle in 2 minutes.
 
I understand meetings are ongoing right now across the country about the cameras. The system is triggering 800 to 1000 events per day. The company peoplenet and fedex can not keep up with it so it has all been temporarally stopped. One is for every event the company wants to micro manage they have to pay for and there is a cost problem between the two companies. So, they are renegotiating there contract, OH did I say renogiating a contract, me bad they don't want contracts. Two, they have to hire more people to monitor this.
If you think the score card went away shame on you, it never did and now the corrective action that is going on is worse than a scorecard. If you have events triggered your case goes before a review board made up of managers and road driver advisor. There are people in terminals that have been given 3 day suspensions already. They will check your driving history no matter how long you have been here. They will pull your abstract and so on. Again the review board is made up of managers, safety, and hr. then theres another review board made up of 3 managers and 2 drivers. You cant see the cards are stacked up against you. The driver advisor is nothing but a shop steward for the company paid salary.
The 4 centers that voted the union in do not have cameras yet or elogs. They are the last to get them sometime around sept.,or oct. They also don't have a road driver manager because they have acting shop stewards who represent the men not the company like a road driver advisor. We said last year that when these cameras and elogs came out the company was going to take advantage of the system and here you go now. If you were smart like we were you would check into peoplenet and go on there web site or even call them like we did. They use an electronic scorecard, you better protect yourself and get the union in so you get in your contract that you can not be discilplined for any events triggered or the camera like yellow has in there contract. If you feel that you against 2,3,4 managers in a room by yourself is ok then more power to you.
 
SwampRatt said:
Where do we begin? In your attempt to be cute, you are misunderstanding, and theorizing, quite a lot.

1) Direct your attention to the 1st 3 lines. Specifically the terms "As soon as possible", 5 min., and "Communicate this Pre-Shift to all FedEx Freight Drivers". So, not speculation. Not district X, region Y, or centers a, b, & c. ALL Drivers.

2) You imply (Again) that I condone, or somehow want to "protect" unsafe driving. Speculation that is far from the truth. I've yet to address the policy, specifically. Unlike you, I can fully understand the how & why of the updated policy.

3) We should be notified of policy WHEN it changes, or before. You seem happy with being informed after. How long after do you find acceptable? 1-2 weeks? 1-2 months? You can call it hearsay, if you like, but it seems to be the policy NOW.

4) Cameras are part of the "lane departure warning system", which most locations' fleets do have. Whether they contain "capture capabilities", I won't speculate. Either way, we will all be exposed to them soon.

5) As far as "hilarious fear mongering" at your center, there is speculation as to whether this policy will even apply there...
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there goes red playing manager in clt lmao
 
gator I feel your pain. I'm 55 but will not sit quiet no more and that's why I fight everyday to organize because that's all we have left here and abroad.
 
RickyRedshirt12 said:
Hello TruckingBoards. Long time lurker, first time poster. I understand where you all are coming from. No one wants to feel like someone is watching their every move. However, if you take a step back and look at the big picture, isn't safety our first priority? You all are professional drivers that spend thousands of hours traveling thousands of miles each year. How many times have you shaken your head at the multitude of unsafe acts you have witnessed? How many fatalities have you driven by? How many lives lost and destroyed due to unsafe driving habits that tempted fate one too many times? Now what if those lives could have been saved by correcting unsafe behavior before it's was too late? Is it worth it to you? What if the life saved was your loved one? I believe it when the company says Safety Above All. I believe in saving lives by changing unsafe behavior thru education and discussion. I hope you do too. Be safe out there. God bless.
***the opinions stated above are those of a lowly slab rat. They are mine alone and not that of my employer***
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Such a typical managers view of things. The camera has nothing to do with being protected against discipline action. I agree the cameras are good for the driver and the company but it has nothing to do with safety. The cameras just proves who's at fault of a triggered event or accident.
 
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