ABF Negotiations Open

Discussion in 'ABF Freight System' started by Freightmaster1, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    I think I’d rather trust the government than put my complete faith in big business/Wall Street........

    I mean, if I had a choice..........and for no other reason than that I can vote on who’s in the government.

    Nobody has ever asked me to vote for a CEO.....
     
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  2. Abfrocks

    Abfrocks Active Member

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    I know when I first came here I asked a fellow driver about the 401k and he looked at me like I was crazy. His response was don’t put :shit: in 401k that’s why we have pension. I thought well, you don’t put all your eggs in one basket. I made 12.5% on teamster 401k this year. I hope pension is still there, and I hope social security is still there, but I am gonna do my part to make sure I have some money also
     
  3. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    What you’re doing is wise. You don’t put all the eggs in one basket. There are problems.....possible longevity problems ........with all retirement vehicles,......

    Mainly because there are business groups and bank groups who have a vested interest in ruining one plan or another.
     
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  4. silent trucker

    silent trucker Well-Known Member

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    and you're naive enough to think your vote counts??? OMG that's funny!
     
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    Elwood Question Authority

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  6. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    Yes,......I am. I am an unregenerated optimist who believes the best in my fellow men.

    I believe most people are a lot smarter than they pretend to be.......

    I believe cynicism is cultivated by a tiny, wealthy, minority who wish that most people believe their vote won’t count,..........so that the votes of that tiny, wealthy minority would be the only ones counted.......

    Who was it that said “ All it takes for evil to triumph, is for good men to do nothing....”?
     
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  7. canaryinthemine

    canaryinthemine Retirement....The Job I Was Born To Have!

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    And,.....although my sarcasm meter was pegging to the right while reading your post,.........I am happy to provide you a chuckle at my expense,......

    Even if you’re only doing it sardonically.......
     
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  8. TurnCoat

    TurnCoat The IBT--Looking out for YOU...and...THEM!

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    When the business agent says, "We need strike authority, and we don't have time for ballots to turn around via mail, just sign on this yellow legal pad and print beside it and the last 4 of your SS#. If you don't want to strike, just don't sign it." Across the top is written Strike Authorization against TMI with the date and local #. Well, nobody at that meeting is walking out without signing, and you know the shi# is bout to hit them blades! That's what happened at Local 991 in 1994. If they mail you a ballot, the answer is Yes, and they will keep mailing them until they get the correct answer.
     
  9. 6PakAbs

    6PakAbs Well-Known Member

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    AND, if it ain't a significant difference, I will just sign the legal paid with the last four of my social...hear that, Judy??
     
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  10. TurnCoat

    TurnCoat The IBT--Looking out for YOU...and...THEM!

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    Well....we probably need to mail a ream of legal pads to Mr. Hoffa....seems they have ran out? But, the point is...they call for a strike it seems....only if it benefits them....and we only go on strike...when they want to...in my opinion
     
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  11. Puff Driver

    Puff Driver Active Member

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    Mine id doing great, looks like a correction this week but I have some funds indexed with the S&P. Since Trump was sworn in I'm up 44% my funds did nothing like that with Obama at the helm.

    Best thing I could ever do was get out of a union pension & fend for myself. It is not for everyone some sheep need someone to do everything for them... But that's fine.....

    After seeing the shape of the Teamster Pensions it may make 2008 look like a vacation. Their greatest hope is some welfare from taxpayers... Unfortunately that will not happen........
     
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  12. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    "Canary, I think your post is pretty much on target, however, I'm still out on your second sentence."
     
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  13. Trucker 206

    Trucker 206 Well-Known Member

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    What was the manner in which you ‘got out’ of the Pension plan, puff? Did your employer decertify? Close the doors? If you were in over 5 years, there will be something for you. Yes, 2008 (and beyond) was a rough year(s) for some plans. The CSPF is having problems. The Western Conference is doing quite well, which is the plan I’m in (25 years now). And like you, I’ve diversified my retirement contributions to avoid the ‘all eggs in one basket’ scenario.
     
  14. Puff Driver

    Puff Driver Active Member

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    I stopped working for companies, became self employed and grew a business. Once on my own I ended my reliance on someone else to provide my retirement. Best thing I ever did...
     
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  15. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    And the smartest move you ever made financially. It’s never smart to put all your eggs in one basket. Diversification is the key.
     
  16. seabreeze

    seabreeze Not Well Known Member, 60 Year Teamster Member

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    Train I was very smart, put all my money in, houses and lots.




    Cat houses and lots of booze>
     
  17. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    I would call that diversification!!!! The worlds oldest profession and booze. Smart man. There’s always a demand for both. You might want to expand your portfolio into cannabis oil for pain management. LOL!!!!
     
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  18. wongway

    wongway -15% Pay , Never forget

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    Time to stand tall & stay strong and time to stop being played as a SHEEP !! It's time to pay full rate !!
     
  19. runawaytrain

    runawaytrain Wear their scorn with pride.

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    As most know I’m extremely anti-union but for once I agreed with this statement. It’s time to make a stand. You guys must call ABF’s bluff and make no mistake that will bluff. You do have leverage because if you strike they will lose millions in market share to the competition. It’s a double edged sword that has risk. But IMO it’s a risk worth taking this time. You have sacrificed enough. And enough is enough.
     
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  20. LTLAnonymous

    LTLAnonymous Well-Known Member

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    As most of you know, I'm extremely pro-union, and the fact that you guys took unnecessary concessions in 2013, and the company is claiming you need to take more in 2018 when the economy is booming is unconscionable.

    Sorry, I thought we were just making introductory posts.

    Hi, my name is LTLAnonymous and I'm an idiot.
     
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